Considering my first F150
09-05-2018, 03:22 PM
#11
2012 Ecoboost here. 147k miles currently and drive it every day. No chain problems. Just oil and filter changes every 5k miles and spark plugs every 30k miles. Friend of mine has a 2014 Ecoboost and last time I checked it had 210k miles on it. No issues out of his either.
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09-06-2018, 12:58 AM
#13
Whether I think it’s all or you think it’s ‘probably around 2%’ is a difference of opinions. OP asked what issues or concerns should he look out for, this is one that has been documented on the first gen eco.
09-06-2018, 04:08 AM
#14
2012 Ecoboost here. 147k miles currently and drive it every day. No chain problems. Just oil and filter changes every 5k miles and spark plugs every 30k miles. Friend of mine has a 2014 Ecoboost and last time I checked it had 210k miles on it. No issues out of his either.
09-06-2018, 07:30 AM
#15
Nope. Just got back from a week long vacation. Not a sound on the first startup after setting a week. Not sure if it has anything to do with it, but I've changed oil every 5k miles with WIX Filter and Amsoil XL oil. My engine is wearing at the pace of an engine with half the miles, and all Blackstone lab results are WELL below average across the board when I had it last tested at 140k miles.
09-06-2018, 09:05 AM
#16
Senior Member
1st fact: You wouldnt be able to buy an extended warranty for anything less than $2300 if it was a issue that was common. People are able to get them for around $1000-$1500. Warranty companies would be going bankrupt at those prices. So that means the average cost of repairs over the general 3 year period of the warranty for the eco is way less than $1000 after you take out profits of dealerships selling and pricing above average repair costs.
2nd fact. If you extrapolate every forum post about timing chain issues and assume every post in the timing chain rattle threads is a different person experiencing the same problems and even double this, you are under 20,000 posts or 2% of a million. Even if you then double that we ares till under 4%. BTW, Ford hit the million eco mark a couple years ago so there are more than a million now.
This, in reality, is about the best data we can look at for actual numbers of issues.
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09-06-2018, 12:41 PM
#17
Nope not a difference of opinions, mine is based more on facts.
1st fact: You wouldnt be able to buy an extended warranty for anything less than $2300 if it was a issue that was common. People are able to get them for around $1000-$1500. Warranty companies would be going bankrupt at those prices. So that means the average cost of repairs over the general 3 year period of the warranty for the eco is way less than $1000 after you take out profits of dealerships selling and pricing above average repair costs.
2nd fact. If you extrapolate every forum post about timing chain issues and assume every post in the timing chain rattle threads is a different person experiencing the same problems and even double this, you are under 20,000 posts or 2% of a million. Even if you then double that we ares till under 4%. BTW, Ford hit the million eco mark a couple years ago so there are more than a million now.
This, in reality, is about the best data we can look at for actual numbers of issues.
As for some real facts, here’s a link to the TSB ford issued when their shops started seeing this unanticipated problem, this also shows new part numbers: http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/...dPdf?id=187147
Here’s an article stating how many ecoboosts were sold up to mid 2013: https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...n-save-cu.html
Here’s another link to a law firm who sifted through more facts than you to put together an article on the top items most complained about to the NHTSA on the 2013’s, with timing chain stretch being number 1: https://www.lemberglaw.com/2013-ford...plaints-lemon/
The man asked what common issues/problems there were with these trucks (2013 in the ad) and I mentioned they have an issue with timing chains. I suggested certified pre-owned, not buying a warranty. You act like I said the first time he starts the thing the chain will stretch and his truck will fall apart. Your profile says you have a 2014, maybe your truck was built the same way as all the other 2014s with the new chain and that’s why you haven’t/won’t experience the problem?
09-06-2018, 02:36 PM
#18
Just went for a test drive. It drove good no problems or anything I could tell of while driving. Underneath looks good considering the truck spent its life in the rust belt.When closing the tailgate it did make a crazy sound but it shut and was secure. Other that that was a bug inside the speedometer not sure how hard It would be to get out if blasted with some air or how hard it maybe to get the cover off to get it out. Got the warranty info appears the timing chain would be covered under warranty 4yr 48k miles
09-06-2018, 02:56 PM
#19
Senior Member
Searching timing chain issues on f150forum.com and rounding the results to 20,000 to get your 2% based off this random 1 million sold is not facts. Ford sold its 400,000th ecoboost f150 over 1,000 days after bringing it to market(I’ll do the math for you, that’s half way through 2013). Once people started putting higher miles on their engine and chain stretch was discovered they issued a TSB and somewhere in October of 2014, a different chain was put on the new ecoboosts rolling off the lot to remedy the problem. All the ecoboosts leading up to this point are the ones in question, not the additional 600,000+ sold from 2014-present day.
As for some real facts, here’s a link to the TSB ford issued when their shops started seeing this unanticipated problem, this also shows new part numbers: http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/...dPdf?id=187147
Here’s an article stating how many ecoboosts were sold up to mid 2013: https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...n-save-cu.html
Here’s another link to a law firm who sifted through more facts than you to put together an article on the top items most complained about to the NHTSA on the 2013’s, with timing chain stretch being number 1: https://www.lemberglaw.com/2013-ford...plaints-lemon/
The man asked what common issues/problems there were with these trucks (2013 in the ad) and I mentioned they have an issue with timing chains. I suggested certified pre-owned, not buying a warranty. You act like I said the first time he starts the thing the chain will stretch and his truck will fall apart. Your profile says you have a 2014, maybe your truck was built the same way as all the other 2014s with the new chain and that’s why you haven’t/won’t experience the problem?
As far as those links you presented. I think they help prove my point that not every truck is having this issue and it is a small percentage.
If you want to talk more about statistics and actuarially stuff we can continue this through PM's and not clog up the OP's thread.
Either way OP, I would buy that truck in a heart beat if it fit my needs and was in good working order.
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09-06-2018, 04:17 PM
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Would not touch a Eco powered F150 with a 10' pole. I am speaking from first hand personal experience. When you step on the gas and all it does is cough on the crap in the intercooler....that is an issue. Almost got me killed on the freeway when it basically shut down. I know you can drill the intercooler and all that fun stuff....but in my mind it is only a bandaid covering the real problem. YMMV.
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