jayandsam09

I think they're just saying that's how many that have joined the suit at the time of the article

jayandsam09

The new cac's that they're putting on the 11&12's didn't work for me. I think the 13's with the differently designed cac and plumbing will be fine. Time will tell. But I have before and after pics of my truck in reference to the cac in the other thread and can't really tell much of a difference other than its a little smaller. On the other hand , compared to a 13 there is a considerable difference

TwinTurboFx4

This would all be solved if ford would make it a recall and not a TSB. Sure they might not have a fix but at least people won't have to worry about it not being covered under warranty.

geno51

I was at full race yesterday I pulled off my stock 12 intercooler and compared it to the 13 cooler there are almost no changes, port for the new electronic bov and the bottom 3 rungs on the core are a little smaller. I do not see the 13 intercooler fixing the issue period

jayandsam09

That's good to know geno. I guess it just looks so different and the way they explained it made it seem as if the new plumbing would fix it. What do the full race guys think about it? I know I saw a few of his posts about it early on in talking about the differences but I don't remember reading anything about whether or not they thought it would work.

I want one of his intercoolers!

HunterSmitty

Yes, a DESIGN issue does in fact mean ALL EB's built on that design are tainted.

jayandsam09

That's right. They just may not all enter the conditions to cause the problem

Truck owner

I dont understand why Ford would order lets say 10,000 new CAC's for replacments for the 11/12 having issues and yet there installing this same CAC on all factory 2013's and to some feel this is not going to solve anything? I just dont understand why all EB's from 2011-13 havent failed if everyone has the same design. It seems weather conditions and long travel trips seem to spawn the problems but why would Ford waste its time and money putting bad parts back on trucks and also on there new 2013s at factory, arent they compounding there problem each and every day?

RuhiA

What are the "illegitimate" issues? The ones by the owners who bought their vehicles in regions that the EB designed for but drove to another region that the design was not meant to be? The ones that who drove their vehicles in weather conditions which are not within design parameters such as rain?





PS. There is a very good reason the suit is filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana. The law firm does not have an office in LA but choose to file it there. They know what they are doing. Hope Ford's legal counsels see what's coming their way soon and suggest Ford to issue a recall for the ones with the "legitimate" problems.

CorvetteDreamin

I think the problem is that the Ford service departments can't duplicate the condition. I had this similar experience with my Mustang. On long trips the A/C would just stop working, usually after a fast merge from on on-ramp continuing my trip after 5+ hours in the seat. Each time I took it in, the A/C worked fine. What are they supposed to do?

Same with the CAC... I'm sure they know owners are reporting problems. And I'm sure whatever vendor they have producing it is aware of the problem. But chances are wherever their manufacturing/testing is taking place isn't producing the same conditions as the affected EB owners.

So how do you fix something you can't easily reproduce? My guess is the CAC manufacturer doesn't have the resources to reproduce the conditions necessary to ALWAYS cause the problem. So they're guessing at quick, economical fixes.

Has anyone heard of other EB engines having this issue or is it just the 3.5 in the F150? The lawsuit only refers to the F150.