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Old 07-16-2014, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jb2012
first of all if you're gonna pull it out pull it all the way. second never push it back in. you could very easily make two holes
You have obviously never done any tire repair, I on the other hand have repaired hundreds over the last 30 years and there is no way in hell a person is going to push a nail hard enough to make a 2nd hole, it will slide right back into the same hole and seal the leak allowing the owner to drive to a tire shop.

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Old 07-16-2014, 01:12 PM
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If it's not leaking air, leave it. I keep a plug kit too. If it starts losing air, plug it. Like someone else posted, it may not have poked thru the tire
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DOT allows a *round* hole up to 1/4" in diameter (not a tear or cut) to 1" from the BEAD of the tire on a radial. Contrary to what all the under-skilled tire busters and all the "salesman" will tell you ("we're not allowed..."; "it's not safe..."; "it's against the law..."), DOT / Federal laws trump what they say. The problem is, they have the option (legal) to simply just refuse to do the repair, whether it's safe or not. A good patch job will last the life of a tire - IF it is done properly.

Now, plugging a tire is about the worst option one can choose. It is applicable if you have no option to get yourself out of a very bad situation, but they are not approved for long-term use. And, if you ever have a warranty claim on a tire, and it is found that the tire has been plugged, every tire manufacturer out there will void the warranty. If an explanation as to why, I'll explain later.

So, the location of the nail in your photo? Perfectly fine to repair!
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Discount tire will not repair that just for reference
Old 07-17-2014, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by STingray1300
DOT allows a *round* hole up to 1/4" in diameter (not a tear or cut) to 1" from the BEAD of the tire on a radial. Contrary to what all the under-skilled tire busters and all the "salesman" will tell you ("we're not allowed..."; "it's not safe..."; "it's against the law..."), DOT / Federal laws trump what they say. The problem is, they have the option (legal) to simply just refuse to do the repair, whether it's safe or not. A good patch job will last the life of a tire - IF it is done properly. Now, plugging a tire is about the worst option one can choose. It is applicable if you have no option to get yourself out of a very bad situation, but they are not approved for long-term use. And, if you ever have a warranty claim on a tire, and it is found that the tire has been plugged, every tire manufacturer out there will void the warranty. If an explanation as to why, I'll explain later. So, the location of the nail in your photo? Perfectly fine to repair!
I'm not aware of any DOT regulation that allows for sidewall repairs, but I know they make the patches for sidewalls so I don't doubt it. However no major tire retailers will do a repair beyond the shoulder because that is not a good practice to follow in the Industry's Opinion. Most if not all major chains follow RMA Guidelines for tire repair. Which means no sidewall repairs and no shoulder repairs. This also requires a patch & PLUG because neither on there own is perfect and can fail. The plug will keep water and debris from getting under the patch and breaking down the adhesive.

Also as far as warranty, anytime you warranty a tire (mileage, seperation, road hazard, good will) it gets sent back to the manufacturer and if it has RMA repairs done on it they will accept it. Any other repair however will not be accepted. So you must follow the plug & patch system and be repaired only in the tread.

Seems like you were referring to the temporary "rope" plugs in which case you're correct, but I just wanted to clarify.

Originally Posted by AricsFX
Discount tire will not repair that just for reference
It's close but I would break down the tire and see where it's located inside before I made that call. If I can buff the surface for the patch without hitting the sidewall with the buffer than it's usually far enough away so we would call it good.

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Was the head on that domed, or am I seeing a flat nail head.
Wondering if it is just a tack.
Old 07-17-2014, 04:56 PM
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they make kits that make jobs like this pretty simpleee
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Originally Posted by ReefDonkey
How screwed am I here? I'm gonna go to the shop at lunch and have them check it out. I'm thinking I may be good to go. Tires have 1200k on them
1,200,000 miles on those? they look fantastic!!! You need to call Toyo, I'm 100% positive they will want to buy them back from you for their museum.

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Inside patch plug. Convince the shop. Let them know u K ow the risks. You will be fine if done properly
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Originally Posted by MCDavis
Thick tread block + tire casing = lots of rubber. That needs to be a long roofing nail for it to be an issue. Worse case, the unseat the tire, patch & plug (proper way) and you're on your way.
Pulled a 1.5" roofing nail out of my brand new terra grapplers and all was okay!
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