rockhead11

I'm interested! !

jpaint

Going to leave polls open for the rest of the week, then make the decesion on which location to pull the trigger on and get this process started!!!

So place your votes if you're interested!!!!!

13f150plat

iTrader: (1)

I understand what you mean and what you are doing ..
I interpreted the thread as an opinion/feedback and that's what I gave


if they make one and its 5-700... well its right in line with the others maybe a few bucks cheaper


if they make a set up that works and has some rd behind it for OUR type of trucks and its under 500 that's a diff conversation for sure


good luck I hope you get off the ground some sort of ic set up for your truck

TJPlatinumEB

Wait. You did 6 months of research and your first post indicates you seem to think a less expensive intercooler will damage your engine or turbos? Really?

I've personally worked on, built, and been in the business of high HP Supras for the better part of the past 15 years. I have NEVER once seen any intercooler be the cause or the blame for any damage to any vehicle of any kind. The ONLY thing I have ever seen is a less efficient intercooler not make the same amount of power in the same car at the same boost level as another one.

They are there to have air shoved through them at ridiculous volumes and rates and attempt to cool them as efficiently as possible. Yes the bar and plate or tube and fin design does make a difference, but I really don't think you are going to see such a drastic difference in any kind of use or performance from a less expensive product made by these guys.

When they first put out the first intercooler they made for the Supra, the shop I worked for at the time bought one and we strapped a car that normally made about 900 to the wheels on to the dyno and put that intercooler on it. We ran it 10 times in a row to attempt to heat soak it so we could not the performance losses when compared to the nearly 4 times as expensive Greddy and HKS products that were mainly used for that power level at the time. This was over 10 years ago so I don't remember the exact numbers, but there was less than a 5% difference in performance across all of the intercoolers. So the end result was the SSAuto or XSPower unit was only had a fraction more power loss than the others.

You can complain or claim that they have to do all this R&D, but it's still an aluminum box for air to flow through. If it is using the same quality of materials and assembly and design that they have used in the past, it will perform great for 99.99% of anyone who buys one for these trucks. If you happen to be that .01% then more power to you. I personally would never spend $1,000 on an intercooler and I've got a 600hp Supra sitting in my garage right now that has one of this exact company's products on it and performing flawlessly. Nothing against Full Race or any of those other companies who make these, but I've seen them get built and welded and just don't see the $1000+ dollar price tag. R&D, jigs, etc sure that will add some, but not when you will see a nearly as efficient product for half the price.

chef-j

My post is for other guy. People buying it because their price is 200~300 bucks, surprised he said he is willing to pay if it is 500 bucks. Lol

They will make them if they see more eco f150 in on road and at race. All they needs is copy other top brand designed and call it a day. Whats so hard? It wont take long.

Dont get me wrong, i ran ebay exhaust on my evo before, it worked.

Its funny how they saying what? Gtr? blah blah and we own this company blah blah. Makes sound like they are in serious racing company. But its all ebay stores.

Like i said, i ran ebay exhaust before, not hating copy product. It was just funny that you sound more to marketing and so excited about they willing to make for eco owners!! Lol

Well anyway i will leave this thread, good luck!

jpaint

I just asked him to send me some info to put people at ease about the whole R&D stuff, to show that they know whats goin on.

I am excited, I like race car parts what can I say! Especially one's that are within reach. I want to find out if there are others, like myself, interested in an intercooler option that doesnt require a personal loan lol.

But when one gets built most questions will be answered and everyone will see a little clearer.

sigma pi

I would hope it would get bench flowed, yes the cores are all the same but the end tanks are different. They would be super lazy if they didnt at least do that. I honestly do not care about dyno numbers I want to know pressure drop, stock VS this IC.
So you would go with ebay Chinese parts?


Most of all, pics of Supras!

TJPlatinumEB

Yes absolutely I would hope that they get bench tested and use decent end tanks. My explanation, as simple as I tried to make it be, just was for the VAST majority of owners of these trucks that would upgrade to this would not have more than 20psi going through it, would still be on stock turbos, and would not be making more than 450 or so HP. In my experience, at that boost and power level, you aren't going to see major improvements or differences between an inexpensive intercooler versus one from a known company for twice as much. The pressure drops and differences were negligible in comparison to other higher end intercoolers 10 years ago. I have no reason to believe that would be different now.

And yes I have a CXRacing/XSPower etc chinese made intercooler and piping system on my Supra. I paid $400 bucks for the whole system and it looks and performs every bit as good as others who have setups that cost 3-5 times what mind did. If mine makes 20hp less because of a pressure drop or something of that nature, it's still not worth it to me to spend as much as they did for that extra 20hp with a "name brand" design. My 15 years with these cars and having seen about every turbo, intercooler, fuel system, etc design that has come along for them tells me that I'm perfectly fine saving money on a system that fits just as well and performs 95% as well as the others.

sigma pi

I am not racing my EB and I do not need that 5% either. IC pipes make no difference, routing does.

Pics of Supras!

jpaint

Everyone loves Supras!!!