Beware of BakFlip by Bak Industries
#91
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If I was nasty in my messages I could probably understand his lack of communicating, but I have been very polite in my correspondence...
Here is what I sent:
Julian,
I am sending this message one more time per your request on the F-150 Forum.
Mine is the one with the hinges shrinking and leaking.
I sent a message to you yesterday, but never received a response. I will await a response and post the results, good or bad. I feel that is fair.
Please respond to me with what we need to do to correct the defective cover. I have included my shipping information as well as cell number.
Here is what I sent:
Julian,
I am sending this message one more time per your request on the F-150 Forum.
Mine is the one with the hinges shrinking and leaking.
I sent a message to you yesterday, but never received a response. I will await a response and post the results, good or bad. I feel that is fair.
Please respond to me with what we need to do to correct the defective cover. I have included my shipping information as well as cell number.
Last edited by kidastra; 02-11-2014 at 04:15 PM.
#92
Senior Member
If I was nasty in my messages I could probably understand his lack of communicating, but I have been very polite in my correspondence... Here is what I sent: Julian, I am sending this message one more time per your request on the F-150 Forum. Mine is the one with the hinges shrinking and leaking. I sent a message to you yesterday, but never received a response. I will await a response and post the results, good or bad. I feel that is fair. Please respond to me with what we need to do to correct the defective cover. I have included my shipping information as well as cell number.
#93
Senior Member
I went with BAK because they were the only manufacture that had an aluminum roll up cover. You can stand on my cover because of the construction used. My main complaint with BAK is my customer service was less the satisfactory which is really an understatement. I believe top shelf customer service is a CRITICAL component of a well run company.
Sometimes "SUCCES" breeds EXCESS…………. meaning a company can stop caring about the very people that made them successful. Suddenly a CEO doesn't have TIME to insure customers are treated properly! A huge mistake imo because those customers are the life blood of that company. What is more important then taking care of customers.. really?
I will not buy from them again because of the lousy attitude I got when contacting their customer service two times! They really could not care less that the unit I received had some serious defects which I repaired myself. All they seemed to care about was that I wasn't making a claim or wanting to return the unit. I bought direct from BAK to insure IF I had problems they would be there! Well guess what.. NOT!!
Oh well live an learn with companies…. some are great some not so much………
Sometimes "SUCCES" breeds EXCESS…………. meaning a company can stop caring about the very people that made them successful. Suddenly a CEO doesn't have TIME to insure customers are treated properly! A huge mistake imo because those customers are the life blood of that company. What is more important then taking care of customers.. really?
I will not buy from them again because of the lousy attitude I got when contacting their customer service two times! They really could not care less that the unit I received had some serious defects which I repaired myself. All they seemed to care about was that I wasn't making a claim or wanting to return the unit. I bought direct from BAK to insure IF I had problems they would be there! Well guess what.. NOT!!
Oh well live an learn with companies…. some are great some not so much………
#94
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sweet, paypal www.stjude.org
yes...I think the guy came on to make things right, made a mistake or two (reasonable given he's the president of a busy company), you all smelled blood in the water and swarmed. At this point I believe he's cut his losses by deciding not to further reply, and realized there's nothing to gain by sending out new replacement covers
yes...I think the guy came on to make things right, made a mistake or two (reasonable given he's the president of a busy company), you all smelled blood in the water and swarmed. At this point I believe he's cut his losses by deciding not to further reply, and realized there's nothing to gain by sending out new replacement covers
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#95
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sweet, paypal www.stjude.org
yes...I think the guy came on to make things right, made a mistake or two (reasonable given he's the president of a busy company), you all smelled blood in the water and swarmed. At this point I believe he's cut his losses by deciding not to further reply, and realized there's nothing to gain by sending out new replacement covers
#96
Senior Member
As far as ignoring the OP - again, I'd be doing the same if I was him.... tried to help, got attacked.... done/cut losses and on with the business
free market = if the product really is crap it'll fail, if not then just like the Ecoboost threads there are a few duds out there = cost of doing business. Again, the guy didn't have to even reply much less offer a replacement - it was out of warranty so the company lived up to their side of the agreement. I'm sure lots of companies will offer a free replacement after the warranty expires - maybe I'll see if sony will replace the TV i bought in 2008? And of course Ford will honor any repairs after 36k miles out of the goodness of their hearts.
I <3 capitalism, the generosity of large companies has no boundaries and we should expect them to always take care of us
#97
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he's been ignoring the op this entire time, it is now 2 people he offered help to (McCarthy and focus289)
the attacking only started after julians 2nd reply, which contradicted his first, and said the best way to contact him was through a method the op already tried before julians 2nd post.
"done/cut losses and on with the business" fine, then stop helping the others.
I've noticed your arguments always **** me off, I'm not sure why and I apologize for calling you out earlier
#98
Senior Member
he's been ignoring the op this entire time, it is now 2 people he offered help to (McCarthy and focus289)
the attacking only started after julians 2nd reply, which contradicted his first, and said the best way to contact him was through a method the op already tried before julians 2nd post.
"done/cut losses and on with the business" fine, then stop helping the others.
I've noticed your arguments always **** me off, I'm not sure why and I apologize for calling you out earlier
the attacking only started after julians 2nd reply, which contradicted his first, and said the best way to contact him was through a method the op already tried before julians 2nd post.
"done/cut losses and on with the business" fine, then stop helping the others.
I've noticed your arguments always **** me off, I'm not sure why and I apologize for calling you out earlier
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#99
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Bak has a great concept on all there products.
But....
They seem to be lacking in all other areas. ie. engineering, quality control, customer service.
I have owned a F1 for 4 years or so and it has been OK. The concept is great but the engineering of it is less than stellar. Small changes would have made a great cover.
But....
They seem to be lacking in all other areas. ie. engineering, quality control, customer service.
I have owned a F1 for 4 years or so and it has been OK. The concept is great but the engineering of it is less than stellar. Small changes would have made a great cover.
#100
he's been ignoring the op this entire time, it is now 2 people he offered help to (McCarthy and focus289)
the attacking only started after julians 2nd reply, which contradicted his first, and said the best way to contact him was through a method the op already tried before julians 2nd post.
"done/cut losses and on with the business" fine, then stop helping the others.
I've noticed your arguments always **** me off, I'm not sure why and I apologize for calling you out earlier
the attacking only started after julians 2nd reply, which contradicted his first, and said the best way to contact him was through a method the op already tried before julians 2nd post.
"done/cut losses and on with the business" fine, then stop helping the others.
I've noticed your arguments always **** me off, I'm not sure why and I apologize for calling you out earlier
Guys this is Julian again. Please note that while I do care tremendously, I am only one guy and my time during the day is extremely limited. I'm not making excuses, but sometimes my staff know that unless the sky is falling, they best not bother me with customer service related matters. That's what I pay them for and expect them to step up and do a stellar job. It's not to say that I feel too important to help, but rather, I am at the helm of a company with hundreds and hundreds of employees and everyone needs a piece of me at any given moment. Sometimes I simply don't have the time. Yesterday was a particularly difficult day for me. I was slammed in some pretty exhausting meetings and only got home after 10:30 pm. For those that care, it is now 5:28 am and I am back to work already. My proposal would be rather than trying to get through to me on the phone via my customer service department, just email me directly at julian@bakindustries.com and I will get you squared away. Honestly folks, I am here to help. We make an incredible product, albeit that from time to time we do have defects. I'm am here to help and if I say I'l do something, I'll do it. I think it fair to say that "one tree does not make a forest", and I would only ask that BAK Industries not be judged by the occasional late response or perhaps not always exemplifying perfection in all areas. I can tell you that we've built a reputation in 40 countries for being the premier brand of tonneau cover, and that hasn't happened by making crappy products or having bad service. I am personally taking responsibility for some of our employess not always being sensitive or responsive, but they are likely just following protocol. So very often these sorts of issues need to be viewed in the gray, rather than black and white. So to wrap this up, just email me directly. You have my solemn commitment that as the president and CEO of BAK Industries, I will take care of you personally.
Thanks again.
Julian.
Thanks again.
Julian.
Those that have a G2 and it's been trouble free, I'm extremely happy for you and hope that you continue to receive satisfaction with your purchase!
~Tony
Last edited by lotecredneck; 02-11-2014 at 09:36 PM.