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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnyinHollister
How about finding a stretch of dirt to run on and see if it still bangs in 4H on dirt? Also do you have a locking rear end?
It does not bind on dirt only on the pavement. Yes, I have a locking rear.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Shol'va
I thought it was interesting to note that even though the manual states not to drive like this, it only warns it will cause excessive noise and tire wear. You would think it would warn you that you could damage components as well.
Yup, it should because you can.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwilliams29
It does not bind on dirt only on the pavement. Yes, I have a locking rear.
Have you tired it with the Traction Control turned off?

If that isn't it, it means either the front and rear axles are turning at slightly different speeds. That's why turning on dry pavement causes binding, because it forces the tires to turn at different speeds.

Could be one tire is slighly larger than the others if they are newer. If you haven't rotated your tires in a while, the front tires may have worn down enough to cause this as well.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwilliams29
It does not bind on dirt only on the pavement. Yes, I have a locking rear.
Have you checked for equal tire pressure in all tires? Have you had any tires replaced that may not match the rest?
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shol'va
Can you feel it or only hear it?
Are you engaging the 4x4 while moving or stopped? I do not know that much about the newer 4x4 but could it be one of your hubs not engaging properly?

From my old 4x4 when I had the hubs apart I could easily see how you could get more of a grinding noise due to how the splines would engage. When I got the '94 I had to tear the hubs apart and file the splines to get them to slide together since they had just rubbed against each other instead of engaging like they should have.

If I engage from a stop or moving it yields the same result. It does feel like it's coming from the front drivers side.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Shol'va
I thought it was interesting to note that even though the manual states not to drive like this, it only warns it will cause excessive noise and tire wear. You would think it would warn you that you could damage components as well.
Just for the sake of interest, I dug out my owners manual. Page 301 5th item down:

"Four-wheel drive (4WD) supplies power to all four wheels. 4WD should not be operated on dry pavement; driveline damage may occur."

Not trying to have an argument, just thought I'd mention it.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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OP, you don't have a level or a lift do you? I'm curious if it's a half shaft with a bad joint that periodically decides to throw itself wonky for a second? Is there anything loose or wrapped around a shaft?
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sullyman
Have you tired it with the Traction Control turned off?

If that isn't it, it means either the front and rear axles are turning at slightly different speeds. That's why turning on dry pavement causes binding, because it forces the tires to turn at different speeds.

Could be one tire is slighly larger than the others if they are newer. If you haven't rotated your tires in a while, the front tires may have worn down enough to cause this as well.
Yes, T/C completely turned off or on same result. I do understand the workings of the drive line as I have been an active 4x4 enthusiast for years. All tires are at 35psi and the truck is two months old with 5k on it.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by smurfs_of_war
Just for the sake of interest, I dug out my owners manual. Page 301 5th item down:

"Four-wheel drive (4WD) supplies power to all four wheels. 4WD should not be operated on dry pavement; driveline damage may occur."

Not trying to have an argument, just thought I'd mention it.
Haha...weird.
I have my manual out too and it mentions nothing of damaging drive-line components. It states plenty of times it is not intended for use on dry pavement, and may cause excessive noise and increased tire wear.

Why would they remove that wording....maybe they redesigned something in the newer trucks that minimizes any potential damage?
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shol'va
Haha...weird.
I have my manual out too and it mentions nothing of damaging drive-line components. It states plenty of times it is not intended for use on dry pavement, and may cause excessive noise and increased tire wear.

Why would they remove that wording....maybe they redesigned something in the newer trucks that minimizes any potential damage?
Maybe, hard to say. It's actually emphasized a few times in here. Mine's a '10. I wonder if they did come up with something? It would be nice because there's no way I can say I am not guilty of accidentally leaving mine in 4x4 on dry pavement from time to time
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