2WD vs 4WD?
08-30-2013, 02:54 PM
#31
Love my 2wd ecoboost and getting 20+ MPG on the highway. But, when every time I go up north I swear im going to go trade it for a 4wd. I also dont "Need" 4wd, but there are times I want it. Good luck with the decision.
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08-30-2013, 02:56 PM
#32
I went 2wd, but I have '96 Bronco for when it gets bad out. It hardly ever gets bad here, in 17 years I needed 4wd maybe half a dozen times and that was mostly in one year.
However, if the salesman had told me I could get the bigger gas tank with the 4wd, that might have swayed me.
To throw in a little honesty here, I knew if I had bought the 4wd, I'd be buying wheels and tires and a leveling or lift kit and more so it was going to cost me a lot more than $3K
However, if the salesman had told me I could get the bigger gas tank with the 4wd, that might have swayed me.
To throw in a little honesty here, I knew if I had bought the 4wd, I'd be buying wheels and tires and a leveling or lift kit and more so it was going to cost me a lot more than $3K
08-30-2013, 02:57 PM
#33
Senior Member
Drive slow in snow... you must not have snow drifts?
08-30-2013, 02:59 PM
#34
Senior Member
Also, my 2wd screw is 300 lbs lighter, faster, and I can get 21+ mpg @ 75 mph.
08-30-2013, 03:02 PM
#35
One Bad MoFoMoCo Owner
My $0,02 if you don't "need" 4x4. If you do "need it" then disregard because this doesn't apply.
I get 20+ on the highway with my FX2 and a solid 3MPG better than all the 4x4's on here. If you read enough of the posts, you'll see 4x4 guys getting between 16-18. So the Resale argument doesn't stand up and this is why..... You'll pay $3K extra for a 4x4, then drive it for 8 years. When you sell it, you might get your $3K back. Some guys call that worth it. However, over those 8 years in your 4x4, you used $300 more fuel per year than you would have in a 2WD if you drive 12k miles a year and get 17mpg vs 20mpg. That is 105 gallons at $3.50. Easy Math! So you spend $1,800 in extra fuel to break even on your $3k investment. That's also easy math, and it is NOT breaking even. You would need to clear $4800 minimum over the price of a 2WD to "break even" on your 4x4 investment.
If you need it great, but don't fall for the "RESALE" argument. If you need to convince your wife, that's one thing. But don't fool yourself. If you want 4x4, then say you want it and then get it. Don't make excuses and try to convince yourself your saving money like some people do to themselves.
Oh yeah, and don't forget maintenance. Front Diff, CV Shafts, etc.
4X4 = Heavier, more moving parts, Higher rolling resistance, better in snow.
4X2 = Lighter, less moving parts, lower rolling resistance, slow your ***** down in the snow.
Now that I've offended some of the 4x4 owners, let the fun begin.
Oh, and I live in Northern IL, where it snows a lot. I don't go offroad, and I drive slow when it's slick.
I get 20+ on the highway with my FX2 and a solid 3MPG better than all the 4x4's on here. If you read enough of the posts, you'll see 4x4 guys getting between 16-18. So the Resale argument doesn't stand up and this is why..... You'll pay $3K extra for a 4x4, then drive it for 8 years. When you sell it, you might get your $3K back. Some guys call that worth it. However, over those 8 years in your 4x4, you used $300 more fuel per year than you would have in a 2WD if you drive 12k miles a year and get 17mpg vs 20mpg. That is 105 gallons at $3.50. Easy Math! So you spend $1,800 in extra fuel to break even on your $3k investment. That's also easy math, and it is NOT breaking even. You would need to clear $4800 minimum over the price of a 2WD to "break even" on your 4x4 investment.
If you need it great, but don't fall for the "RESALE" argument. If you need to convince your wife, that's one thing. But don't fool yourself. If you want 4x4, then say you want it and then get it. Don't make excuses and try to convince yourself your saving money like some people do to themselves.
Oh yeah, and don't forget maintenance. Front Diff, CV Shafts, etc.
4X4 = Heavier, more moving parts, Higher rolling resistance, better in snow.
4X2 = Lighter, less moving parts, lower rolling resistance, slow your ***** down in the snow.
Now that I've offended some of the 4x4 owners, let the fun begin.
Oh, and I live in Northern IL, where it snows a lot. I don't go offroad, and I drive slow when it's slick.
I get over 20 on the highway at 60 to 65mph too, just over 17 city. 4x4 SCrew 5.0 with 3.55s. Not the divergence in mileage there used to be between the two drive trains. 1 mpg at best.
It does make a difference in resale too, especially when trading in a newer model truck.
Heavier, not by much, but a little, negligible difference in mileage. Technology had come along way in reducing weight and improving the strength of these systems.
Service, you should read the owner's manual and get back to us with the recommended maintenance schedule...
If you think you will use it just a couple times a year. Better to have it than not. If you think you might use it, that chance comes, and you don't have it, you'll regret it.
08-30-2013, 03:09 PM
#36
Senior Member
For me, mileage doesn't do anything for me when I am stuck in a snowbank especially when I have two kids under 3 in the backseat. They don't close work or schools over some of the storms they would on the east coast (you don't have the snow removal systems or infastructure we do). I also use my trailer in the winter, and no way would I go 2wd pulling that.
Some things you just don't price out value on the truck. I have heated and cooled seats in my truck but I am not going to price out the amount of times I use it to cool my ***** during the summer, some things you just need. lol
Some things you just don't price out value on the truck. I have heated and cooled seats in my truck but I am not going to price out the amount of times I use it to cool my ***** during the summer, some things you just need. lol
08-30-2013, 03:09 PM
#37
No one's offended, but should set straight some misconceptions that linger from not so recent past truths.
I get over 20 on the highway at 60 to 65mph too, just over 17 city. 4x4 SCrew 5.0 with 3.55s. Not the divergence in mileage there used to be between the two drive trains. 1 mpg at best.
It does make a difference in resale too, especially when trading in a newer model truck.
Heavier, not by much, but a little, negligible difference in mileage. Technology had come along way in reducing weight and improving the strength of these systems.
Service, you should read the owner's manual and get back to us with the recommended maintenance schedule...
If you think you will use it just a couple times a year. Better to have it than not. If you think you might use it, that chance comes, and you don't have it, you'll regret it.
I get over 20 on the highway at 60 to 65mph too, just over 17 city. 4x4 SCrew 5.0 with 3.55s. Not the divergence in mileage there used to be between the two drive trains. 1 mpg at best.
It does make a difference in resale too, especially when trading in a newer model truck.
Heavier, not by much, but a little, negligible difference in mileage. Technology had come along way in reducing weight and improving the strength of these systems.
Service, you should read the owner's manual and get back to us with the recommended maintenance schedule...
If you think you will use it just a couple times a year. Better to have it than not. If you think you might use it, that chance comes, and you don't have it, you'll regret it.
I know it makes a difference on resale, I was just trying to point out that you need to recoup more than the initial investment if you want a true break even.
To be honest, you've got me on the maintenance. I haven't looked at mine yet, because I only have 34k on it. All my older 4x4 trucks in the last 20 years have needed WAY more than a 2wd requires. So I generalized, and I shouldn't have. My bad.
I appreciate the comments.
08-30-2013, 03:11 PM
#38
08-30-2013, 03:14 PM
#39
Senior Member
up here it's a no brainer...
we went looking for an apartment once, 12" of snow the day before, roads were a mess, and we made it around town no problem
and we HAD to find a place (for a friend) that week-end, so there was no waiting for snow plows to come by...
we went looking for an apartment once, 12" of snow the day before, roads were a mess, and we made it around town no problem
and we HAD to find a place (for a friend) that week-end, so there was no waiting for snow plows to come by...
08-30-2013, 03:29 PM
#40