2013 F-150 Brake Master Cylinder failure while driving!
#11
How's she goin' eh?
Im surprised you didn't see anything about the recall on this site.
Edit: I searched "f150 master cylinder recall" using this site's search function. I didn't even narrow it down to our generation's section.
https://www.f150forum.com/f38/recall...brakes-346725/
https://www.f150forum.com/f38/headsu...-truck-351719/
https://www.f150forum.com/f2/2014-br...recall-352073/
https://www.f150forum.com/f38/questi...ce-rep-347947/
There's also a bunch in the 2015+ section. Not to mention it was on the news when it first came out.
Sucks that you're outta luck by a year. Weird too.
Last edited by M0RRIS; 06-19-2017 at 11:58 PM.
#12
Boost :)
Umm, the 13-14 Ecoboosts were recalled for the exact issue the OP described. 16S24 is the recall. If the master cylinder and booster are the same across engines and vacuum isn't the issue explain to me why the only trucks having issues are the Ecoboosts with mechanical vacuum pumps. And go on the NHTSA website, there are a ton of 13-16 3.5 Ecoboosts with this issue.
And why do you continue to have to clog up threads that have NOTHING to do with the EB engine, with your reasons on why not to buy one? This persons issue has nothing to do with the vaccuum pump and yet you have to bag on it again and again.
We get it, you hate the EB. Move on and get on with your life.
#13
Umm, the 13-14 Ecoboosts were recalled for the exact issue the OP described. 16S24 is the recall. If the master cylinder and booster are the same across engines and vacuum isn't the issue explain to me why the only trucks having issues are the Ecoboosts with mechanical vacuum pumps. And go on the NHTSA website, there are a ton of 13-16 3.5 Ecoboosts with this issue.
#14
How's she goin' eh?
I can't speak for other threads but missmy06 isn't bagging on them here with that post.
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#15
Junior Member
2013 F-150 3.5 EB brake failure...want to join class action
The same thing happened to me as well just last week a few days before our summer road trip. Like others on the forum I found the safety recall after the fact. Like your case to my surprise, Ford decided not to cover the replacement parts and labor under the recall because the truck VIN was not in the recall group.
Let's keep this simple, if it's the SAME model year as the recall, made in the SAME assembly plant as the recall, with the SAME 3.5 engine, the exact SAME parts involved in the failure, the failure is exactly the SAME as described on the recall, then these trucks have the SAME PROBLEM as the recalled trucks.
For reference, my last truck was a 2000 F-150 which I drove into the ground and after 15 years the original master cylinder worked as good as the day I drove the truck off the lot brand new.
There is something wrong with the part design or brake system design that needs to be fixed for all owners of this defective set up before innocent people die. I am looking for a class action lawsuit to join, anyone here know of any for this recall issue?
Let's keep this simple, if it's the SAME model year as the recall, made in the SAME assembly plant as the recall, with the SAME 3.5 engine, the exact SAME parts involved in the failure, the failure is exactly the SAME as described on the recall, then these trucks have the SAME PROBLEM as the recalled trucks.
For reference, my last truck was a 2000 F-150 which I drove into the ground and after 15 years the original master cylinder worked as good as the day I drove the truck off the lot brand new.
There is something wrong with the part design or brake system design that needs to be fixed for all owners of this defective set up before innocent people die. I am looking for a class action lawsuit to join, anyone here know of any for this recall issue?
#16
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Have you made a claim with Ford customer service and filed a report with the NHTSA? I recently checked and there are several new reports on the NHTSA site since I made mine. This issue will get the attention it deserves, we just need to be persistent. There's no reason why our trucks should be left out being that we have the same faulty parts. This is my first vehicle that has ever had an issue with the brake master cylinder, and it's also the newest vehicle I've ever owned. That's a problem.
#17
Junior Member
Ford customer care "management" was not responsive
Yes, I filed a failure report with the NHTSA the same day it happened. Also called Ford customer (don't) care but they said they weren't going to include my VIN in the recall at this time (translation: tough luck you're on your own) Also, the dealer where the repair occurred also tried to get Ford to cover it under the recall but they wouldn't.
I'm not the kind of person who sues people but as I have 2 kids under 3 yrs old and really don't think that brakes are something to be taken lightly, I am pretty pissed.
I'm not the kind of person who sues people but as I have 2 kids under 3 yrs old and really don't think that brakes are something to be taken lightly, I am pretty pissed.
#18
Senior Member
Just curious if I could have a local certified shop do the recall, instead of Ford dealer? Just don't trust them. Sometimes they cannot even get an oil change right without messing something up. I purchased my 2014 new, no brake issues, but thought about getting the recall done ( Maybe )...
Brakes are wearing fine and no pedal issues. was just going to let it go and not worry about it. Any thoughts....
Brakes are wearing fine and no pedal issues. was just going to let it go and not worry about it. Any thoughts....
#19
Junior Member
FORD brake failure preventative repair
If your VIN is in the recall group, my thought for you is to go ahead and get the work done. If it's not included in the recall but possesses all of the same characteristics as the recall group (like mine does) maybe it would be worth considering having it done since mileage used, which contributes to wear and tear could be a factor in the failure of the part.
Here's a reason to consider: My brakes were fine and without issue right before they failed completely with absolutely no notice. It was not a progressive worsening where you could see it coming like fine one minute and failed the next. From what you are describing it seems like you are making your assessment considering that everything works well now so everything therefore should be OK. This would be true of brake issues like pads getting thin or rotors getting warped...those things you can see coming before they reach a point of failure. This issue is very different in that aspect. If you don't do a preventive repair then you might want to drive like your brakes could fail at any moment while hoping they don't...which is a stressful way to live.
It sucks that your local Ford dealer does not perform to a satisfactory level. Maybe there is another Ford dealer within 1/2 hour you could go to? The reason why I had my truck towed to the dealer was for liability purposes. If something happened, they owned it completely after the repair. To date I haven't been able to determine if the replacement master cylinder is any different from the one they took out, but if if fails they own it because Ford supplied the part and did the labor. Once you involve a non-approved repair shop it would seem that it gives Ford a way to squeak out of any future liability for failure should the repair part ever fail.
Here's a reason to consider: My brakes were fine and without issue right before they failed completely with absolutely no notice. It was not a progressive worsening where you could see it coming like fine one minute and failed the next. From what you are describing it seems like you are making your assessment considering that everything works well now so everything therefore should be OK. This would be true of brake issues like pads getting thin or rotors getting warped...those things you can see coming before they reach a point of failure. This issue is very different in that aspect. If you don't do a preventive repair then you might want to drive like your brakes could fail at any moment while hoping they don't...which is a stressful way to live.
It sucks that your local Ford dealer does not perform to a satisfactory level. Maybe there is another Ford dealer within 1/2 hour you could go to? The reason why I had my truck towed to the dealer was for liability purposes. If something happened, they owned it completely after the repair. To date I haven't been able to determine if the replacement master cylinder is any different from the one they took out, but if if fails they own it because Ford supplied the part and did the labor. Once you involve a non-approved repair shop it would seem that it gives Ford a way to squeak out of any future liability for failure should the repair part ever fail.
#20
Senior Member
If your VIN is in the recall group, my thought for you is to go ahead and get the work done. If it's not included in the recall but possesses all of the same characteristics as the recall group (like mine does) maybe it would be worth considering having it done since mileage used, which contributes to wear and tear could be a factor in the failure of the part.
Here's a reason to consider: My brakes were fine and without issue right before they failed completely with absolutely no notice. It was not a progressive worsening where you could see it coming like fine one minute and failed the next. From what you are describing it seems like you are making your assessment considering that everything works well now so everything therefore should be OK. This would be true of brake issues like pads getting thin or rotors getting warped...those things you can see coming before they reach a point of failure. This issue is very different in that aspect. If you don't do a preventive repair then you might want to drive like your brakes could fail at any moment while hoping they don't...which is a stressful way to live.
It sucks that your local Ford dealer does not perform to a satisfactory level. Maybe there is another Ford dealer within 1/2 hour you could go to? The reason why I had my truck towed to the dealer was for liability purposes. If something happened, they owned it completely after the repair. To date I haven't been able to determine if the replacement master cylinder is any different from the one they took out, but if if fails they own it because Ford supplied the part and did the labor. Once you involve a non-approved repair shop it would seem that it gives Ford a way to squeak out of any future liability for failure should the repair part ever fail.
Here's a reason to consider: My brakes were fine and without issue right before they failed completely with absolutely no notice. It was not a progressive worsening where you could see it coming like fine one minute and failed the next. From what you are describing it seems like you are making your assessment considering that everything works well now so everything therefore should be OK. This would be true of brake issues like pads getting thin or rotors getting warped...those things you can see coming before they reach a point of failure. This issue is very different in that aspect. If you don't do a preventive repair then you might want to drive like your brakes could fail at any moment while hoping they don't...which is a stressful way to live.
It sucks that your local Ford dealer does not perform to a satisfactory level. Maybe there is another Ford dealer within 1/2 hour you could go to? The reason why I had my truck towed to the dealer was for liability purposes. If something happened, they owned it completely after the repair. To date I haven't been able to determine if the replacement master cylinder is any different from the one they took out, but if if fails they own it because Ford supplied the part and did the labor. Once you involve a non-approved repair shop it would seem that it gives Ford a way to squeak out of any future liability for failure should the repair part ever fail.
Only thing that worries me is its fine now, and after the repair something will fail.
I appreciate the info on no advance notice, I was Not aware of that.