I could be wrong but I think they now have to put real shipping weight on trailers when it leaves the factory.

Dry weight use to be in a cabinet inside. Now every new trailer has a yellow sticker outside with the GVWR, payload and shipping weight. Now they should also include the shipping pin weight.

 

Yeah, those numbers on the yellow stickers are probably close. I meant when loaded and ready to camp.
All this crap weighs a lot. I remember last year I went forth and back on this. Even all the stuff in your truck. My Toyota back then had a payload sticker that said 1,200 lbs. When I took it to the scales, I really only had 1,040 lbs available, without me in the truck, but with a full tank of gas. That's because of "stuff" I had added: nerf bars, a skid plate, floor liners, seat covers, and the stuff in the console and under the seat.
Unbelievable how quickly it adds up, and it's no different with camping gear ....

 

That's what I was thinking as well...

 

Very cool read guys! Nice unit too. That pin weight is helped out by the rear outside kitchen (and possibly the Corona light .... just kidding!!).
We have been looking at many RV's and realistically want to keep the ready to roll weight of a fifth wheel under 9000lbs. We take deliver of a supercrew Eco with Max Tow and HD payload options (2620 lbs of payload) next week. The max payload will likely come in around 2400lbs due to the additional options. We will have to keep the pinweight under 1500lbs as the hitch and 2 people will put the total payload around the 2000lb mark.

I second guess myself about 9000lbs behind a F150 as discussions on other forums by owners of 3/4 and 1 ton trucks pulling fifth wheels say this is unsafe.
Before I started looking into trucks, I never would have believed that a 6 cylinder could haul this kind of weight. I know now that it is possible as I have encountered construction workers pulling trailers in excess of 10,000lbs with their Ecoboosts.

If there is one negative in all this, it would have to be the gas mileage when towing... but it goes with territory.

 

Good pics...... The thing is most people that use 1/2 ton's to pull fifthwheels know their limitations and are more carefull then most on the road. With that said I worry more about the tractor trailer that is overloaded or someone who has a one ton and thinks they can pull anything just because they can go straight down the road. In my experience I have seen more semi's laid over on the side of the road or a four wheeler upside down on a icy road than I have seen RV'S.

You have't lived until you pull a set of doubles or triples on an icy road.

:-)