2012 ecoboost engine blow
11-09-2014, 08:06 PM
#61
Play with fire and you might get burned.
11-12-2014, 01:56 AM
#62
Think all that have blown and pictured put the window in perty much the same location. I would like to see the pistons all laid out together. I question the odds of the same rod always being weak in every blown engine and that injector always being the faulty hydrolock cause. I wonder if all of these motors are sent back to Ford in one piece for Ford to pull apart. Still it is a small % sofar of the amount of motors built.
11-12-2014, 06:53 AM
#63
Senior Member
First of all, please learn basic english sentence structure. I disagree with you saying this is personal. It may be for you, but I don't feel attacked or intend you to feel so either. I would tell anyone the same thing--you pushed your engine and you broke it--you should man up and fix it.
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vozaday (11-15-2014)
11-12-2014, 06:54 AM
#64
Senior Member
No one should be allowed to say, "well it wasn't tuned when it threw a rod, so it is Ford's and the EB's fault for being so poorly put together."
So now we have attempts at censorship? Lol.
So now we have attempts at censorship? Lol.
11-12-2014, 07:28 AM
#65
Just Another Member
Can't read this **** any more wowza maybe it was just a weak and defective rod that eventually went like when something new breaks .... It happens **** inside the motor isn't immune to this rare phenomenon called breaking there only humans inspecting them these things called parts
On another thread, there is a guy with a hole in the side of his block, same cylinder, in almost the exact same place. The picture on that thread has the rod sticking out the side of the block. Ford diagnosed a stuck injector and replaced the motor under warranty.
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/ecoboo...8/#post3781402
The pictures look very similar.
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vozaday (11-15-2014)
11-12-2014, 08:33 AM
#66
Senior Member
It was bouncing off the rev limiter at 6218rpm on the 1-2 shift and again on the 2-3 shift, a constant 3KR and not pulling timing. And was pushing 23psi to boot..only ran it once! I was running 50/50 meth and E25(96 octane). Scary stuff man that was the worse my truck had ever ran in 38000 miles since new. Its been about a month now so I don't think I'll get a revision and maybe it was meant for me, sadly
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Adobe2X (11-13-2014)
11-12-2014, 08:56 AM
#67
Sorry but thats just plain silly,and wrong,when Ford sells a roush programmer for the eco boost,which is no different than the other tunes that are sold,other than the customer can change the tune from time to time for things like tires etc without paying the dealer everytime they install different size tires,or change the type of gas they put in the tank.... PLUS I am guessing you have not watched the video's that ford puts out that brags about how much abuse and stress the engine can take after being ran wide open for 24hrs at 6000rpm... Also ford brags about how strong the block is meant to be,and that it has forged internals,etc etc...so I would think that adding a extra 100 hp or even just 50 hp with a tune should in no way effect the day to day use of the product,unless the motor that blew up either had a defect in one of the parts its self or it was not assembled correctly...
11-12-2014, 11:15 AM
#68
I agree. Occam's razor: the simplest answer is usually correct. ***** happens, stuff breaks. Tune, over-revving, condensation ingestion, it's all speculation. Maybe something just broke.
On another thread, there is a guy with a hole in the side of his block, same cylinder, in almost the exact same place. The picture on that thread has the rod sticking out the side of the block. Ford diagnosed a stuck injector and replaced the motor under warranty.
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/ecoboo...8/#post3781402
The pictures look very similar.
On another thread, there is a guy with a hole in the side of his block, same cylinder, in almost the exact same place. The picture on that thread has the rod sticking out the side of the block. Ford diagnosed a stuck injector and replaced the motor under warranty.
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/ecoboo...8/#post3781402
The pictures look very similar.
[QUOTE=Theocoog;3804414]I agree. Occam's razor: the simplest answer is usually correct. ***** happens, stuff breaks. Tune, over-revving, condensation ingestion, it's all speculation. Maybe something just broke.
Incorrect and I'll tell you why:
The argument goes like this:
I smoke cigarettes and I am not worried because you are going to die of something.
The flaw in the argument ignores the fact that non-smokers live longer than smokers. That is why life insurance companies charge smokers a higher premium. While it is speculation what caused the failure, it is fact that the tune and the mentality of tuners is a contributing factor.
In the same vein, tuned engines die sooner and the more stress you add, the shorter the engine life statistically. My truck is for work and transportation--not racing. If I did desire to go fast, it would not be in an f150.
11-12-2014, 01:44 PM
#69
Just Another Member
Incorrect and I'll tell you why:
The argument goes like this:
I smoke cigarettes and I am not worried because you are going to die of something.
The flaw in the argument ignores the fact that non-smokers live longer than smokers. That is why life insurance companies charge smokers a higher premium. While it is speculation what caused the failure, it is fact that the tune and the mentality of tuners is a contributing factor.
In the same vein, tuned engines die sooner and the more stress you add, the shorter the engine life statistically. My truck is for work and transportation--not racing. If I did desire to go fast, it would not be in an f150.
Not everyone tunes to go fast. Some tune to get better economy or a smoother ride or to have less stress on the engine while towing.
The way you phrased your response makes it sound like a part failure is out of the question, and I disagree with that. I think it's pretty likely. Different opinion.
11-12-2014, 02:26 PM
#70
Not denying what you're saying. Just commenting that the simplest answer is usually the correct answer, especially in engineered systems.
Not everyone tunes to go fast. Some tune to get better economy or a smoother ride or to have less stress on the engine while towing.
The way you phrased your response makes it sound like a part failure is out of the question, and I disagree with that. I think it's pretty likely. Different opinion.
Not everyone tunes to go fast. Some tune to get better economy or a smoother ride or to have less stress on the engine while towing.
The way you phrased your response makes it sound like a part failure is out of the question, and I disagree with that. I think it's pretty likely. Different opinion.
Thank you for your thoughtful response. In thoughtful reply, here is what I say to all the tuners: Ford programmed the computer per their engineering. You decided you could do it better. Therefore you own the possible problems that you created. I think there should be some reasonable level of proof that the tune was partly the cause. The OP seems kind of irresponsible and any reasonable person could assess some percentage that he is culpable.
As to our misunderstanding on failure, I did not intend to say that added stress to an engine causes failure every time. What I say is absolute fact is that added stress to any mechanical device will cause increased failure rates.
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