2010 XLT 5.4 - Engine Problem!!
12-12-2010, 08:00 PM
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Thanks guys. We did not refuel when we stopped. I did fill up the previous day when I had the oil changed. I always get my gas a the Quick Trip by my house...never had an issue in the past there but I suppose that's a possibility.
I will check the viscosity of what they put in.
It ran fine today. I have a feeling it's going to be one of those "gee, it seems to be running fine now" type of service visits. Can they run a log on it of any kind to pinpoint the time it died?
I will check the viscosity of what they put in.
It ran fine today. I have a feeling it's going to be one of those "gee, it seems to be running fine now" type of service visits. Can they run a log on it of any kind to pinpoint the time it died?
12-12-2010, 08:29 PM
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What about a different brand of oil than say your dealership would use? A thicker oil would make the engine work harder? Some people just can't read that little black cap with white letters.
12-12-2010, 08:53 PM
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MAN.. just wow. Unless you put 80W gear oil in your truck, it is not going to make your truck just Die. If you think a little of deffrent in weight would make your eng blow... You will lose alittle horse power with higher weight. I run 10w-30 in my 550 Horse Super/Charged Mustang and have over 50,000 miles on her. (a lot 1/4 at a time) I would look somewhere in your air intake Sys. They do look at your airfilter at those places.
12-12-2010, 09:34 PM
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Good Idea
MAN.. just wow. Unless you put 80W gear oil in your truck, it is not going to make your truck just Die. If you think a little of deffrent in weight would make your eng blow... You will lose alittle horse power with higher weight. I run 10w-30 in my 550 Horse Super/Charged Mustang and have over 50,000 miles on her. (a lot 1/4 at a time) I would look somewhere in your air intake Sys. They do look at your airfilter at those places.
They may have checked your air filter at time of the oil change.
12-13-2010, 06:54 AM
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Quick Trip was on that list. Apparently they use the same supply as Shell.
12-13-2010, 04:04 PM
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It sounds like the issue Fram used to have with their oil filters for the Ford 6.0 diesel. The filters were so cheaply made that the paper in the filter would collapse and starve the engine for oil. The 6.0 used oil pressure to pressurize the fuel. Well, when the filter paper collapsed and oil pressure dropped the truck would go in to "limp" mode or just shut off. I would imagine the engineers put a "safety" feature in the current gas engine that puts the engine in limp mode or shuts off when oil pressure drops. Once the paper moves around in the filter it would run okay for a bit and then it would happen again. Don't know if Fram is still having the issue, but if they used a cheap oil filter it could be your problem. the only way to tell is to cut the filter open.
12-14-2010, 04:01 PM
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Truck has been running fine the last two days. I just refilled the gas tank yesterday. I talked to my dealer, he confirmed that if it wasn't still running bad it may be hard to pinpoint. He felt like it could have been bad gas. I agree, Quick Trips claim to fame is their gas quality...but anything can happen obviously. Could have sucked something in, plugged it briefly and then restarted?? Who know. Stuff like this sucks.
Interesting comment above on the air box not being seated properly. I may go out and look around that again and see what's up with that. That day I looked it over and removed it, it started right after that. But, it didn't appear to misaligned or or anything weird. Am I correct that band clamp must be loosened in order to actually get the box lid off? Because I could not for the life of me figure out how to get it removed without loosening that band clamp.
Dealer suggested a fuel system cleaner/additive for good measure and monitor it. Also said to by all means bring it in if I wanted to. But that's why I called. I dont have time to jerk around with it only to be told they couldn't find anything.
The truck never went into "limp mode" really...it just bogged WAY down and actually died well before I came to a stop in Neutral.
Interesting comment above on the air box not being seated properly. I may go out and look around that again and see what's up with that. That day I looked it over and removed it, it started right after that. But, it didn't appear to misaligned or or anything weird. Am I correct that band clamp must be loosened in order to actually get the box lid off? Because I could not for the life of me figure out how to get it removed without loosening that band clamp.
Dealer suggested a fuel system cleaner/additive for good measure and monitor it. Also said to by all means bring it in if I wanted to. But that's why I called. I dont have time to jerk around with it only to be told they couldn't find anything.
The truck never went into "limp mode" really...it just bogged WAY down and actually died well before I came to a stop in Neutral.
08-25-2013, 10:40 AM
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Quick Trip is good gas. When CR or MT did testing on commercial gas performance a few years ago, they identified the suppliers using "Top Tier" gas as the cleanest and most consistent in quality.
Quick Trip was on that list. Apparently they use the same supply as Shell.
08-25-2013, 11:39 AM
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Had my oil changed at Valvoline (I know...but it was overdue and I was heading out on a road trip the next day). Truck ran fine that day, then we left to go out of town the following day.
Truck seemed to run fine all morning. We made a stop, got back on the road. I went to pass a slow moving vehicle and romped on it a little. Right after I overtook the vehicle it began to bog...then REALLY bog...then died and we rolled to a stop in a parking lot. Lifted the hood and looked it over. Got back in and tried to start it a few times and it would fire, then sputter out. The dash was showing the oil symbol. Checked the oil, it looks fine. I tried to restart, same start then sputtered out. Now the wrench light is on, oil light is off. I remembered the guy at Valvoline had my air filter out, so I removed it, made sure it was seated, pull the sensor and reconnected it. Then talked on the phone to the service mgr at my dealer for a few min. Got back in and it started up and ran fine. Oil pressure and temp per the dash guages was fine throughout this ordeal, I even noted it as it began to bog the first time.
Anyway, we were no where near a dealer and just said screw it and kept on driving. It seemed to sputter a little now and again whenever I had to accelerate quickly or had a steep grade and then engine had more load. I never pushed it the rest of the trip just in case. On the way back home I had to enter highway traffic, romped on it and it start running funny again. Thankfully I made it home. Still no engine light or anything.
Is there anything those guys at Valvoline could have done?
Obviously I will take it to the dealer Monday, but it's Saturday afternoon and I'm fishing for anything you guys got!! Thanks!!
Truck seemed to run fine all morning. We made a stop, got back on the road. I went to pass a slow moving vehicle and romped on it a little. Right after I overtook the vehicle it began to bog...then REALLY bog...then died and we rolled to a stop in a parking lot. Lifted the hood and looked it over. Got back in and tried to start it a few times and it would fire, then sputter out. The dash was showing the oil symbol. Checked the oil, it looks fine. I tried to restart, same start then sputtered out. Now the wrench light is on, oil light is off. I remembered the guy at Valvoline had my air filter out, so I removed it, made sure it was seated, pull the sensor and reconnected it. Then talked on the phone to the service mgr at my dealer for a few min. Got back in and it started up and ran fine. Oil pressure and temp per the dash guages was fine throughout this ordeal, I even noted it as it began to bog the first time.
Anyway, we were no where near a dealer and just said screw it and kept on driving. It seemed to sputter a little now and again whenever I had to accelerate quickly or had a steep grade and then engine had more load. I never pushed it the rest of the trip just in case. On the way back home I had to enter highway traffic, romped on it and it start running funny again. Thankfully I made it home. Still no engine light or anything.
Is there anything those guys at Valvoline could have done?
Obviously I will take it to the dealer Monday, but it's Saturday afternoon and I'm fishing for anything you guys got!! Thanks!!
i just read the whole thread and tried to put into perspective everything that everyone is saying.
my suggestion would be this.
go with the oil filter theory first.
i think its a plausible theory about oil grade and loss of a FEW hp.
but i think the oil filter theory is strongest because i talked to a parts manager at ford about warranty work. i was told that its best to use ford crap on ford crap. which means, only use ford oil filters on ford motors. yes other brands make oil filters for ford trucks etc.
this way if anything goes wrong, and an oil sample needs to be taken and sent away, ford can't tell you to pump sand.
now my truck is off of all warranty that came with the truck and i have no extended warranty either, but i can say that i have never taken it anywhere else other than a ford dealership for services and haven't had a problem since day one.
so, i think i would rip the sticker the gasoline boys used off and take it back to a dealership and spend the few bucks of swapping stuff back to ford products. if something goes wrong AT the dealership, then it falls on them to fix it, not you. but i do agree with the paper in the oil filter theory too.
its ok to say you tried to take a short cut, but your truck is saying "bad boy" lol
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08-25-2013, 12:06 PM
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