Recovery rope, winch line and straps
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Depends exactly what you mean by "recovery rope", and exactly what kind of recovery you prefer. If you like ******-recovery, and you're talking about a snatching (kinetic) rope, they're relatively small & light (check BubbaRope). Maybe smaller than a ****** strap, depending on design & load rating. If you mean tug-boat rope; yeah, those are pretty bulky. But you'll never break one with any number of trucks.
Difficulty in unrolling a rope or strap mainly depends on how careful you are when rolling it. But I couldn't unroll my carefully-rolled strap a few days ago because it was frozen solid. That probably wouldn't happen to a rope; especially a Bubba, which is mostly waterproof.
But both straps & (common) ropes suffer from high wear if used in mud & sand due to the sharp particles working into the fibers, and cutting them slowly from inside every time they flex (but much faster during hard pulls). So your location & where you wheel also should be considered before selecting a single recovery method. I carry several all the time, so I have options.
Difficulty in unrolling a rope or strap mainly depends on how careful you are when rolling it. But I couldn't unroll my carefully-rolled strap a few days ago because it was frozen solid. That probably wouldn't happen to a rope; especially a Bubba, which is mostly waterproof.
But both straps & (common) ropes suffer from high wear if used in mud & sand due to the sharp particles working into the fibers, and cutting them slowly from inside every time they flex (but much faster during hard pulls). So your location & where you wheel also should be considered before selecting a single recovery method. I carry several all the time, so I have options.
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Just to give an update about the ropes, I have 6 made to try out to show the quality and show these lines are real nice. I have 3 3/4 x 30’ and 3 7/8” x 30’ lines. These lines I made are 100% American made and 100% American fiber materials. I am working on the soft shackles and other stuff as well but wanted to get a few of these out to get some reviews and testimonials on the rope. See the link to see the rope with the flexible coating. These are still needing the rubber eyes dipped but those will be done with more pics in the next day or two when they are dry. https://ibb.co/cqDZRS
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chimmike (02-15-2018)
#34
I built a few lines at work but have to order the correct dip for the eyes. I am also working with a rope manufacturer to improve the rope with a higher break strength. I mainly just got busy with work and helping a friend remodel his house lately. Were you waiting on a line to test?
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I have been getting a lot of questions and request for soft shackles. I am working on final pricing and will be able to offer USA and import 12 strand for soft shackles and winch lines. Is there a certain splice or type of soft shackles y’all are looking for? I been playing with different spices at work and made up a sample for myself to try out. This is a diamond knot shackle made from 1/2” import 12 strand. I still have to tighten up the knot and cut the ends but wanted to show a little sample. I am going to have a piece of chafing cover to go on it also not pictured.
#37
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I'll have to double check, but I think the soft shackles I have (and most other ones I've seen) go all the way through the center of the line directly from the loop. I would prefer that setup to yours because you don't have that open section between the loop and where it goes back into the line. Also, it seems like it would hold itself in a closed loop better than your design.
2 Questions:
1)Any idea what the 1/2" shackle would be rated for (or what the 1/2" line itself is rated)?
2) what's the diameter of of doubled up 1/2" line?
Also, I don't know what the cost difference is, but 3/8" soft shackles are normally used for smaller vehicles (Jeeps, small trucks), and 7/16" are common for full size trucks. I think some options on the size would be good (and probably a necessity). If there's a big price jump to go with the 1/2" line, then you will probably have a hard time competing with the smaller lines.
Those lines you posted look nice. Are these kinetic or static ropes?
2 Questions:
1)Any idea what the 1/2" shackle would be rated for (or what the 1/2" line itself is rated)?
2) what's the diameter of of doubled up 1/2" line?
Also, I don't know what the cost difference is, but 3/8" soft shackles are normally used for smaller vehicles (Jeeps, small trucks), and 7/16" are common for full size trucks. I think some options on the size would be good (and probably a necessity). If there's a big price jump to go with the 1/2" line, then you will probably have a hard time competing with the smaller lines.
Those lines you posted look nice. Are these kinetic or static ropes?
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Remember that some designs are patented or otherwise protected. Don't break the law by copying someone else's design.
#39
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I'll have to double check, but I think the soft shackles I have (and most other ones I've seen) go all the way through the center of the line directly from the loop. I would prefer that setup to yours because you don't have that open section between the loop and where it goes back into the line. Also, it seems like it would hold itself in a closed loop better than your design.
2 Questions:
1)Any idea what the 1/2" shackle would be rated for (or what the 1/2" line itself is rated)?
2) what's the diameter of of doubled up 1/2" line?
Also, I don't know what the cost difference is, but 3/8" soft shackles are normally used for smaller vehicles (Jeeps, small trucks), and 7/16" are common for full size trucks. I think some options on the size would be good (and probably a necessity). If there's a big price jump to go with the 1/2" line, then you will probably have a hard time competing with the smaller lines.
Those lines you posted look nice. Are these kinetic or static ropes?
2 Questions:
1)Any idea what the 1/2" shackle would be rated for (or what the 1/2" line itself is rated)?
2) what's the diameter of of doubled up 1/2" line?
Also, I don't know what the cost difference is, but 3/8" soft shackles are normally used for smaller vehicles (Jeeps, small trucks), and 7/16" are common for full size trucks. I think some options on the size would be good (and probably a necessity). If there's a big price jump to go with the 1/2" line, then you will probably have a hard time competing with the smaller lines.
Those lines you posted look nice. Are these kinetic or static ropes?
The diameter with the line ran back through itself is 1" using a real rope diameter measure tool.
These are real 100% nylon kinetic ropes all USA fibers.
#40
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I agree I would never do that but I can't see someone patented a design because it's a basic rope splice. I can see if I tried copying the name or same rope and maybe even the same colors but its not. Correct me if I am wrong here but that's just my thoughts.