lift, leveling or "raptor"
#21
#22
You d be doing yourself a disservice if you do anything less than mid travel. You are in prime prerunner territory and factory spec shocks with a lift isn t going to cut it, regardless of who makes them.
Factory Raptor take offs are a very good starting point and given how heavy the 6.2 is, the 2.5s would actually perform pretty well on a lighter setup.
Factory Raptor front suspension with a decent leaf pack and factory fox 2.5s should be the first phase.
Once you grow tired of that you can bump up to 3.0s and a bedcage.
If that gets to be too tame, THEN I d look towards a full aftermarket setup and a rollcage.
Factory Raptor take offs are a very good starting point and given how heavy the 6.2 is, the 2.5s would actually perform pretty well on a lighter setup.
Factory Raptor front suspension with a decent leaf pack and factory fox 2.5s should be the first phase.
Once you grow tired of that you can bump up to 3.0s and a bedcage.
If that gets to be too tame, THEN I d look towards a full aftermarket setup and a rollcage.
#23
#24
Senior Member
Originally Posted by ericeo
This is the route I originally wanted to go with.. from what I figured out, I need parts from a 2010-2014 raptor. LCA , CV shafts, tiered and coil overs are what I will need to make the upgrade for the front? for the rear, should I use the rear leafs from a raptor?..
Additionally, Iβd go ahead and pick up a LCA cam kit - SPC Performance 86250 Ford Adjustable Cam Nut/Bracket - once you start jumping the truck the lower control arm tends to keep moving, these cam kits lock them in place. I had a plate welded in but same line of thought.
For the rear Iβd spend the money on a proper leaf pack vs the factory set. Again, inertial management. When the leaf pack is too soft, you rely only on the dampening ability of the shock. A set of deavers/alcan/national/ICON, etc.. would be a significant upgrade - ALSO, you can get those packs with some lift built in which does two very good things; 1) eliminate the lift block which reduces axle wrap. 2) adds another inch or two of up travel so that the rear shocks have more time to reduce the impact potential of the diff on the factory bump stops.
I can go both ways on rear hydro/nitro bumps at this phase. I didnβt get them until I added a leaf pack and 3.0s so I logged plenty of dirt time without them to no negative effect but I wasnβt going crazy either. They are good insurance either way. The reason I didnβt mention them is because you can have bumps built into your bed cage and thatβs a logical time to step up so to speak.
Last edited by WarSurfer; 11-25-2017 at 08:09 AM.
#25
That said, in either a lift kit or a lifted coilover setup, an aftermarket UCA like an Icon may provide a little bit of extra travel (maybe an inch or inch and a half) because the design allows more movement than the factory UCAs. I just wish they weren't so expensive. $700 is pretty pricey for a set of UCA's, but I imagine I'll eventually add them when the time is right.
#26
That's correct. UCA's are not "necessary" with a suspension lift kit with a diff drop, for the reasons you mention.
That said, in either a lift kit or a lifted coilover setup, an aftermarket UCA like an Icon may provide a little bit of extra travel (maybe an inch or inch and a half) because the design allows more movement than the factory UCAs. I just wish they weren't so expensive. $700 is pretty pricey for a set of UCA's, but I imagine I'll eventually add them when the time is right.
That said, in either a lift kit or a lifted coilover setup, an aftermarket UCA like an Icon may provide a little bit of extra travel (maybe an inch or inch and a half) because the design allows more movement than the factory UCAs. I just wish they weren't so expensive. $700 is pretty pricey for a set of UCA's, but I imagine I'll eventually add them when the time is right.
#27
Tie rods, UCAs/LCAs, extended brake lines, axle shafts, coilovers
Additionally, I d go ahead and pick up a LCA cam kit - SPC Performance 86250 Ford Adjustable Cam Nut/Bracket - once you start jumping the truck the lower control arm tends to keep moving, these cam kits lock them in place. I had a plate welded in but same line of thought.
For the rear I d spend the money on a proper leaf pack vs the factory set. Again, inertial management. When the leaf pack is too soft, you rely only on the dampening ability of the shock. A set of deavers/alcan/national/ICON, etc.. would be a significant upgrade - ALSO, you can get those packs with some lift built in which does two very good things; 1) eliminate the lift block which reduces axle wrap. 2) adds another inch or two of up travel so that the rear shocks have more time to reduce the impact potential of the diff on the factory bump stops.
I can go both ways on rear hydro/nitro bumps at this phase. I didn t get them until I added a leaf pack and 3.0s so I logged plenty of dirt time without them to no negative effect but I wasn t going crazy either. They are good insurance either way. The reason I didn t mention them is because you can have bumps built into your bed cage and that s a logical time to step up so to speak.
Additionally, I d go ahead and pick up a LCA cam kit - SPC Performance 86250 Ford Adjustable Cam Nut/Bracket - once you start jumping the truck the lower control arm tends to keep moving, these cam kits lock them in place. I had a plate welded in but same line of thought.
For the rear I d spend the money on a proper leaf pack vs the factory set. Again, inertial management. When the leaf pack is too soft, you rely only on the dampening ability of the shock. A set of deavers/alcan/national/ICON, etc.. would be a significant upgrade - ALSO, you can get those packs with some lift built in which does two very good things; 1) eliminate the lift block which reduces axle wrap. 2) adds another inch or two of up travel so that the rear shocks have more time to reduce the impact potential of the diff on the factory bump stops.
I can go both ways on rear hydro/nitro bumps at this phase. I didn t get them until I added a leaf pack and 3.0s so I logged plenty of dirt time without them to no negative effect but I wasn t going crazy either. They are good insurance either way. The reason I didn t mention them is because you can have bumps built into your bed cage and that s a logical time to step up so to speak.
#28
Always great info from WarSurfer.
After doing the Raptor swap and you are looking for a little bit more performance, we have our Bolt in Prerunner kit available as well!
This kit includes our Boxed upper and lower arm, custom axle shafts, tie rod extensions, extended braklines and all necessary hardware. We designed this kit around the Gen 1 Raptor coilover and gives you the option to run a secondary Bypass.
Just like the Raptor, this kit will widen your stance by 3" per side and give you 12" of wheel travel.
After doing the Raptor swap and you are looking for a little bit more performance, we have our Bolt in Prerunner kit available as well!
This kit includes our Boxed upper and lower arm, custom axle shafts, tie rod extensions, extended braklines and all necessary hardware. We designed this kit around the Gen 1 Raptor coilover and gives you the option to run a secondary Bypass.
Just like the Raptor, this kit will widen your stance by 3" per side and give you 12" of wheel travel.
#29
Always great info from WarSurfer.
After doing the Raptor swap and you are looking for a little bit more performance, we have our Bolt in Prerunner kit available as well!
This kit includes our Boxed upper and lower arm, custom axle shafts, tie rod extensions, extended braklines and all necessary hardware. We designed this kit around the Gen 1 Raptor coilover and gives you the option to run a secondary Bypass.
Just like the Raptor, this kit will widen your stance by 3" per side and give you 12" of wheel travel.
After doing the Raptor swap and you are looking for a little bit more performance, we have our Bolt in Prerunner kit available as well!
This kit includes our Boxed upper and lower arm, custom axle shafts, tie rod extensions, extended braklines and all necessary hardware. We designed this kit around the Gen 1 Raptor coilover and gives you the option to run a secondary Bypass.
Just like the Raptor, this kit will widen your stance by 3" per side and give you 12" of wheel travel.
#30
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Dredd75
Would any of your kits work while using a lift kit?