DURATRAC 295/65/18 - Black Rhino Rims: MOAB
11-21-2013, 12:40 AM
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DURATRAC 295/65/18 - Black Rhino Rims: MOAB
Just got these. So here's my opinion after 1 day with them: AWESOME.
If you want some more information, than that...standy by... I very long winded.
I was initially hesitant because I didn't want loud tires or tires that ruined the drivability of the truck. I've modded a lot of trucks in the past for off roading and ruined the ride. I knew I couldn't do that with my DD truck, but I didn't want to keep getting stuck in 2 inches of mudd (OEM FX4 appearance package.) I love having an aggressive look but hate to sacrifice the ride.
Most people, just buy any tire or rim because of the way it looks, but the weight of the wheel and tire package and their balancing makes a huge difference. I didn't want heavy wheels and rims because it KILLS drivability especially when turning, accelerating, or stoping. I did probably 20 hours research in figuring out a good combo for the truck. And it has paid dividends.
Black Rhino Rims are made by a company called TSW. I have the 18X9 MOABS wtih +12mm offset. I've had a couple set of TSW rims for my track mustang, and they are balanced amazingly and are super light compared to most other competitors and still deliver at an amazing price. I wondered if they used their same rotary forged technology for the black rhino rims: they do. Apparently, the technology helps keep the rim portion of the wheels very light, which helps immensely when the wheel is turning. I first called TSW and asked specific weight of the MOAB 18x9 12mm offset 6X135 bot pattern inch , they told me it was 29 lbs, which is fairly light. I wanted to make sure this was right and had discount tire store weight them--they came in at 27lbs, which is damn light for that size of rim. I think the person at TSW on the phone gave me the weight for a different offset or bolt pattern. However; because they are light, they have a 2200 pounds load rating, which is good enough for a 1/2 ton truck. However, many KMC XD's are rated up in the 3200-3400 pound but they are over 30 pounds for an 18 inch rim.
Good Year Duratracs had a great reputation. All our farm vehicles (not currently farming though) have duratracs and they are amazing for the field work, they rip through dirt and mudd like no other all terrain tire. I had them on the highways in these trucks, but couldn't tell how they drove as the farm trucks are old and bent as ****, so it kind of sucked. I read many reviews and people claimed they were great...but great compared to what? A M/T, which suck on the highway. I also read people claiming they wondered really badly on the highway. But after driving them on the highway for about 50 miles 60-90 mph, I can tell you they drive slightly better than my stock wheels and tires (FX4 Appearance package) and are 10 TIMES smoother on a flat road; however bumps and jolts are much more pronounced, which is expected of a E rated tire. As far as road noise, they defiantly have a mudd terrain Humm but it's not any louder than the stock tires, so I can live with that! In cornering there is slightly more roll that stock, possibly because of the inch taller tire, but it's hardly noticeable unless your being picky. These tires weigh in at 58 lbs according to tire rack. They aren't light, but if you compare them to any M/T tire, they are very light.
Using my bathroom scale my FX appearance package rimes weight in at 86lbs, and my new setup weight in at 88lbs! So for a E rated tire, over 1 in increase in size, and .8 inch in width we gained only two pounds.
Acceleration: I haven't been able to tell a difference. I think 420 lbs of torque kind of helps with the bigger tires.
MPG: There was no change in MPG from stock on the cluster read out. I always get 16.5 with none reserved driving and I got 16.5 today.
Rubbing: I'm at stock height and they do rub on my FX4 fender flares while turning the coil compresses. I doubt they would rub if there was no fender flare. It can be easily fixed by cutting the corner out. I'm putting a level kit on tomorrow, they may rubb less, but will most likely rub if you compress the coil.
If you want some more information, than that...standy by... I very long winded.
I was initially hesitant because I didn't want loud tires or tires that ruined the drivability of the truck. I've modded a lot of trucks in the past for off roading and ruined the ride. I knew I couldn't do that with my DD truck, but I didn't want to keep getting stuck in 2 inches of mudd (OEM FX4 appearance package.) I love having an aggressive look but hate to sacrifice the ride.
Most people, just buy any tire or rim because of the way it looks, but the weight of the wheel and tire package and their balancing makes a huge difference. I didn't want heavy wheels and rims because it KILLS drivability especially when turning, accelerating, or stoping. I did probably 20 hours research in figuring out a good combo for the truck. And it has paid dividends.
Black Rhino Rims are made by a company called TSW. I have the 18X9 MOABS wtih +12mm offset. I've had a couple set of TSW rims for my track mustang, and they are balanced amazingly and are super light compared to most other competitors and still deliver at an amazing price. I wondered if they used their same rotary forged technology for the black rhino rims: they do. Apparently, the technology helps keep the rim portion of the wheels very light, which helps immensely when the wheel is turning. I first called TSW and asked specific weight of the MOAB 18x9 12mm offset 6X135 bot pattern inch , they told me it was 29 lbs, which is fairly light. I wanted to make sure this was right and had discount tire store weight them--they came in at 27lbs, which is damn light for that size of rim. I think the person at TSW on the phone gave me the weight for a different offset or bolt pattern. However; because they are light, they have a 2200 pounds load rating, which is good enough for a 1/2 ton truck. However, many KMC XD's are rated up in the 3200-3400 pound but they are over 30 pounds for an 18 inch rim.
Good Year Duratracs had a great reputation. All our farm vehicles (not currently farming though) have duratracs and they are amazing for the field work, they rip through dirt and mudd like no other all terrain tire. I had them on the highways in these trucks, but couldn't tell how they drove as the farm trucks are old and bent as ****, so it kind of sucked. I read many reviews and people claimed they were great...but great compared to what? A M/T, which suck on the highway. I also read people claiming they wondered really badly on the highway. But after driving them on the highway for about 50 miles 60-90 mph, I can tell you they drive slightly better than my stock wheels and tires (FX4 Appearance package) and are 10 TIMES smoother on a flat road; however bumps and jolts are much more pronounced, which is expected of a E rated tire. As far as road noise, they defiantly have a mudd terrain Humm but it's not any louder than the stock tires, so I can live with that! In cornering there is slightly more roll that stock, possibly because of the inch taller tire, but it's hardly noticeable unless your being picky. These tires weigh in at 58 lbs according to tire rack. They aren't light, but if you compare them to any M/T tire, they are very light.
Using my bathroom scale my FX appearance package rimes weight in at 86lbs, and my new setup weight in at 88lbs! So for a E rated tire, over 1 in increase in size, and .8 inch in width we gained only two pounds.
Acceleration: I haven't been able to tell a difference. I think 420 lbs of torque kind of helps with the bigger tires.
MPG: There was no change in MPG from stock on the cluster read out. I always get 16.5 with none reserved driving and I got 16.5 today.
Rubbing: I'm at stock height and they do rub on my FX4 fender flares while turning the coil compresses. I doubt they would rub if there was no fender flare. It can be easily fixed by cutting the corner out. I'm putting a level kit on tomorrow, they may rubb less, but will most likely rub if you compress the coil.
11-21-2013, 02:56 PM
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Looks really sharp! If I were to go with an AT tire it'd be those Duratracs. I had the option when I removed the stock Pirellis day of delivery, but I instead went with buttery-quiet Michelin LTX M/S 2s, they give me the best balance of all-weather control and quiet ride. But those Duras look great!
11-25-2013, 12:29 PM
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A) Looks awesome!
B) Had these tires on my DMax truck and could do half my plowing in 2wd.
C) My stock tires suck in the snow - I'm looking to do the same thing. Same size with a level.
Interested to see what your rubbing results are with the leveling kit. Also - are those wheels the same offset as the stockers? I am thinking about keeping my 18" stock wheels. I like them quite a bit.
Truck looks great.
B) Had these tires on my DMax truck and could do half my plowing in 2wd.
C) My stock tires suck in the snow - I'm looking to do the same thing. Same size with a level.
Interested to see what your rubbing results are with the leveling kit. Also - are those wheels the same offset as the stockers? I am thinking about keeping my 18" stock wheels. I like them quite a bit.
Truck looks great.
11-25-2013, 05:51 PM
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I'll get a photo the autospring 2" level later for you.
These wheels have +12mm offset, and they just barley hang out. +18mm offset would have them lined up perfectly with the fender. Stock is +44.
With the lift, if you are driving casually they aren't going to rub; however, if you turn the wheel 3/4 and compress the coil and shock over a bump, they will rub. Slight cutting of the plastic fx4 fender is required.
These wheels have +12mm offset, and they just barley hang out. +18mm offset would have them lined up perfectly with the fender. Stock is +44.
With the lift, if you are driving casually they aren't going to rub; however, if you turn the wheel 3/4 and compress the coil and shock over a bump, they will rub. Slight cutting of the plastic fx4 fender is required.
11-26-2013, 07:06 AM
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So I have to assume the rubbing is the outside edge on the plastic.
Safe to assume that on a stock wheel, there may not be any rubbing issues?
Def a sharp looking truck - interested to see how the level worked for you.
Got me motivated again - spent a while last evening with a tape measure and my garage door - hah!
Safe to assume that on a stock wheel, there may not be any rubbing issues?
Def a sharp looking truck - interested to see how the level worked for you.
Got me motivated again - spent a while last evening with a tape measure and my garage door - hah!
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