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Old 09-09-2018, 09:08 PM
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It all seems a little overwhelming.
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If it seems overwhelming, start with the speakers and build your confidence and experience from there. The black and white answer is, yes, you will notice an improvement by just changing the speakers and sound deadening the doors. Both extremely easy to do. Will it be a drastic difference? No. Will it be a noticeable improvement? Yes. Will it be what you are looking for? That is subjective to what you want. But you will never know until you experiment for yourself. You cant rely on any of us because all of expectations and preferences are totally different. Start with the speakers and go from there. Let me know if you need help with speaker selection.
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Originally Posted by tenx82
If he has the 8" Sync 3 system, it's almost impossible to change the head unit. There are just too many features tied into it.
and if he doesn't, which we were not told it has, my post stands. there are far many more trucks driving around without the 8" touchscreen than there are. it's quite an expensive option at the time of purchase.
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Originally Posted by tenx82
A speaker upgrade alone can give you better sound, but would be fairly limited by the factory tuning.

IDEALLY, you would use Forscan to remove the factory EQ settings, run your speaker wires (via harness & soldered RCAs) to a DSP, then to a 4+ channel amp, then to your speakers.

That said, you could "cheat" like I did and get the Kicker Key180.4 amp and a ISO-SOT-984-w harness. It's 45w x 4ch with a built-in auto-calibrated DSP functions. It's far inferior to a properly tuned DSP, but far superior to running the factory EQ on quality aftermarket speakers. The amp runs $200 and the harness is $30.

New to this stuff so please help me understand.

If forescan will remove any flavor imparted or removed from the audio and restore it to more or less a full speaker level signal is a DSP really needed.

I would think an EQ is all you may want. With limited speakers and no fancy tweeter wiring you probably dont need channel summing on XLT sync 3 do you?

Most of us probably dont want to get to the level of time and phase adjustments as well so i wiuld think a full DSP is out. That said is a good 4 channel amp and maybe an EQ enough?


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Originally Posted by mtndew1



New to this stuff so please help me understand.

If forescan will remove any flavor imparted or removed from the audio and restore it to more or less a full speaker level signal is a DSP really needed.

I would think an EQ is all you may want. With limited speakers and no fancy tweeter wiring you probably dont need channel summing on XLT sync 3 do you?

Most of us probably dont want to get to the level of time and phase adjustments as well so i wiuld think a full DSP is out. That said is a good 4 channel amp and maybe an EQ enough?

You are asking a simple yet very complex question so let me try to explain. When someone asks, "How do I improve my sound" there can be a million and one different response that can all be correct. The reason they can all be correct is because "improve my sound" is a relative statement. Like I said above, improve could mean louder, deeper, brighter, crisper, any word can fit here.

If you just want to make your sound louder and stronger with a minimal sense of fidelity, forscan and an amp will do the job. Think about a car. You can strap a supercharger or nitrous or turbo to any engine out there. Now the car is faster. But what about the other components needed to handle the extra power? Brakes, suspension, transmission upgrades, gear replacements. It awesome to be able to fly off the line but what about when you want to take that first turn? Think about that in terms of audio. Any kind of audio. Its the same idea. The matter of fact is, a car or truck cabin is probably the worst audio environment period. There are reflections, off axis speaker mounting points, various densities of materials, carpets, plastics, foams, leather, upholstery, the list goes on.

The idea of a DSP is not to simply channel sum. The purpose of a dsp is to combat all of the irregularities of the environment you are listening in so that you give your speakers the best chance at performing at their optimum level. Further, a DSP isn't necessarily complex. Different manufacturers have invested heavily in their tuning software and honestly, its never been easier to utilize a dsp. Audiocontrol makes one of the most easy to use visual dsp's out there. If you really want to get hands off, the Kicker Key amps do the tuning for you similar to a home audio receiver. Lastly, in my opinion, the most noticeable change and one of the first things you should set when tuning with a DSP is time alignment. Setting time alignment literally requires you and tape measure. You measure each speaker distance from your seating position and input the distances intro the dsp. I have been astonished by the difference just setting time alignment provides. And, its damn simple. If I was installing a bear bones system, a dsp would always be part of my budget, no questions asks. It's not complex to use and the results will out weigh the cost all day long. I hope that answers your question.
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I have the 302A package with the 8” touchscreen. I might get a sub under the rear seats and call it good. It seems a little bit easier that way.

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That would work too.
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Originally Posted by LowHangingFruit
I have the 302A package with the 8” touchscreen. I might get a sub under the rear seats and call it good. It seems a little bit easier that way.

Adding a sub is #1. It will make a huge difference and you will be able to lower the bass on the HU so the door speakers don't try to create bass that they can't
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-Scosche LOC90 Speaker to RCA Line Output Converter
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_142LOC...Converter.html

- EFX PA4BX Wiring Kit
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_142PA4...iring-Kit.html

- Alpine RUX-****.2
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_500RUX...UX-****-2.html

I have a Alpine PDX-M6 that I’d like to power two Alpine SWT-10S4s.

Thoughts?
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should be fine with that amp and sub combo.


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