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Old 04-23-2019, 11:22 PM
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Funny, I was thinking along the same lines. I have a Audiocontrol LC-6.1200. I also have the Morel Ultra 2 ways, I just don't know if Morel makes a midrange for my speakers or would I have to replace the entire set and go with something else.
You dont need to use a morel midrange. People mix and match speakers all day long. I would say start with 2 way, start working on your tuning skills, get your system really dialed in and then reevaluate what you think you are missing that a dedicated mid will give you. From there, you will be much more informed about what type of midrange you need.
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You dont need to use a morel midrange. People mix and match speakers all day long. I would say start with 2 way, start working on your tuning skills, get your system really dialed in and then reevaluate what you think you are missing that a dedicated mid will give you. From there, you will be much more informed about what type of midrange you need.
Makes sense. I guess hindsight is 20/20, I would have gone with the D4.800 instead of the LC6.1200. But, that's life! Once I am done this weekend, I will be sending you a PM. BTW, did you ever look at that file. I just wanted to make sure I had the basics correct so I don't blow out something
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Makes sense. I guess hindsight is 20/20, I would have gone with the D4.800 instead of the LC6.1200. But, that's life! Once I am done this weekend, I will be sending you a PM. BTW, did you ever look at that file. I just wanted to make sure I had the basics correct so I don't blow out something
I think I responded. Maybe I didn't. Send me another email so I can check.
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Makes sense. I guess hindsight is 20/20, I would have gone with the D4.800 instead of the LC6.1200. But, that's life! Once I am done this weekend, I will be sending you a PM. BTW, did you ever look at that file. I just wanted to make sure I had the basics correct so I don't blow out something
There is never anything wrong with having extra amp channels period. It will always allow you more headroom for the future. I'm actually happy to see how many people are getting into full active systems and using a DSP. It's certainly been the push at every audio show for the last couple of years.
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Originally Posted by woodall01
Funny, I was thinking along the same lines. I have a Audiocontrol LC-6.1200. I also have the Morel Ultra 2 ways, I just don't know if Morel makes a midrange for my speakers or would I have to replace the entire set and go with something else.
You can run any midrange you want with them. No need to start over. If you want to stick with Morel, they have the CCWR-254.
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Just for noise reduction, would it be better to remove the factory rears and cover the holes? If so, Bruce do you have a plastic cut out for those as well?
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Just for noise reduction, would it be better to remove the factory rears and cover the holes? If so, Bruce do you have a plastic cut out for those as well?
For noise reduction, you'd want to cover them.
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You brought up a very good point about how extensive a person wants to get into this. Running a DSP with custom speaker mounts/pods, massive tuning, etc will be the 1% of audio people. I'd say the 99% of the people on this forum will not be that extensive and will benefit from running rear speakers. I mentioned this on another post that a lot of people will get a DSP, try tuning it themselves only to find that it might sound worst because they don't know what they are doing. Audio is a super slippery slope with lots of info and things to learn before getting it right. I can't tell you how many different speaker combinations I've tried in all of my vehicles over the years. I've certainly learned that everyone has different tastes in sound. Recently I had one client insist that he wanted the rears to be louder than the front speakers. He usually kept his fader at 20/80 split. To each their own.
I'm not qualified in the area of the thread discussion to make any reasonable comment on this subject because the above statement is pretty much me all over. I'm still trying to figure this stuff out but, I have the means to do that. I totally understand the concept and purpose of using a DSP in the system and how the proper speaker types and arrangement make it possible to get a proper tune to the system. With that said, I have to approach this differently because I know what sounds good to me. While I've tried my hand at tuning, I don't have that down yet. My best sounding arrangement before a tune has been through 'manual' means. Something that has been discussed in this forum many times. Manual setup vs. a proper tune. My approach to this is and will continue to be my best manual setup vs. my best effort to do a proper tune. When I can do a tune that sounds better than what I can do myself with my own ears, I believe I'll have accomplished 'the goal' of tuning. As had been said, there is a lot of things that need to be learned and understood before you can get a proper tune in the system. Being a newbie to this, I have a ways to go before can say that 'I got it right'.
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I'm not qualified in the area of the thread discussion to make any reasonable comment on this subject because the above statement is pretty much me all over. I'm still trying to figure this stuff out but, I have the means to do that. I totally understand the concept and purpose of using a DSP in the system and how the proper speaker types and arrangement make it possible to get a proper tune to the system. With that said, I have to approach this differently because I know what sounds good to me. While I've tried my hand at tuning, I don't have that down yet. My best sounding arrangement before a tune has been through 'manual' means. Something that has been discussed in this forum many times. Manual setup vs. a proper tune. My approach to this is and will continue to be my best manual setup vs. my best effort to do a proper tune. When I can do a tune that sounds better than what I can do myself with my own ears, I believe I'll have accomplished 'the goal' of tuning. As had been said, there is a lot of things that need to be learned and understood before you can get a proper tune in the system. Being a newbie to this, I have a ways to go before can say that 'I got it right'.
I don't know how much it costs, but he is good and teaches people via remote controlling your desktop.

https://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...sp-tuning.html
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I don't know how much it costs, but he is good and teaches people via remote controlling your desktop.

https://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...sp-tuning.html
Skizer is excellent. He's taught me a lot!


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