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Old 05-08-2017, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by michael_hutchison
Where'd you get the discount code???
There was only 1 in stock at the vendor I used and the code was unique or I would have shared Walmart is currently the cheapest vendor I can find online.
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The sub should be here today, won't have enough daylight to install it though. Hopefully I'll have pics and a review by Sunday evening.
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UPS guy came a bit early so I fabbed up the WPT harness to the unit, and now I'm waiting on a FORScan code to enable the wiring (should have done that before now in hind sight). One thing to note is that the manual has 0 specs for the remote turn on. So I wired that up to test it. If it doesn't work I'll use the high level inputs from the harness. I wired left and right +/- on the Memphis together since the WPT/Factory only has one set. I'm guessing if this doesn't work I'll have to wire RCA's onto the WPT and try that. Another thing to note is that since the Memphis harness doesn't have power, I'm limited to the length of the WPT for now. It fits perfect where the stock sub would go, but if you wanted to center it you'll need to run longer wires off the WPT (assuming it works). More to follow and pics when I get it running (or if not, then pics by this weekend).

*EDIT* And after a few beers and getting FORScan rights, I learned my laptop doesn't actually have Bluetooth... just all the buttons and BIOS options to turn it on LOL. I'll buy an adapter tomorrow and enable the harness and we'll see what happens (Wife is gonna kill me, a few "pennies" here, a few there )

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Old 05-12-2017, 09:30 AM
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Thanks for the update Hauler, I can't wait to get the full review once you get everything finished up. Curious how it will compare to the Hideaway.
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OK, got it working. The 6v remote is enough to turn it on. It doesn't turn off for a few minutes until after the truck is off and if you open a door it turns on for a few minutes again. No popping or hissing. To get the bass I wanted, I have the gain on max, the DB boost on max, and the remote **** on max.

Is it as good as my custom box 10" w/1000W amp in my last car? Of course not. But it pairs with the Polks I upgraded to (no amp) very nicely. I did try the FORScan 7 speaker kicker change, but it didn't sound as good and the bass output from the sub was drastically reduced. ONLY turn on the sub in FORScan and nothing else if you have the factory non-Sony radio at least.

I would like to meet up with someone that has the kicker just to compare, but for my needs this is perfect. I had ALL settings including the truck to max and the unit only distorted on one song, oddly Kid Rock (can't remember which song unfortunately). It handled Sublime, Korn, Slipknot, D12, Timbaland, Alan Jackson, Johnny Cash, and Flyleaf just fine (I have varied tastes lol). I did tone things down after testing and will probably dial it in a bit more later. I'm posting the current unit settings and head unit settings but everyone is going to be different.

Things I need to do at some point... 1. rewire the harness for a longer run so I can put it in the middle of the seat. 2. fabricate something to hold it in place. Right now I'm using a bungee across the 2 bolts to hold the base of the unit in place.

Ultimately I would guess that if the volume of the hideaway unit isn't good enough for folks, this likely won't scratch their itch either. It can shake the truck, but it doesn't rattle any panels. It fills out the upgraded speakers on the stock head unit exactly how I wanted. I may have been happy with the hideaway or R8 or whatever other options, but I think a 10 suits my music preferences a bit better for the lower bass guitar notes. I'm happy to answer any questions or take additional pictures upon request. If this thread is over a few months old when you see it and you have a question, just PM me.

*EDIT* Figured out a better way to maybe explain the improvement. I have a pretty decent mid-range HT setup downstairs, as I upgraded it we moved the old components to the upstairs. Eventually for ease of use we switched the upstairs to a Samsung K500 series soundbar with a sub. The Memphis would fit equally between the tiny but adequate Samsung sub and the current Klipsch 12HG downstairs.
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Originally Posted by DogHauler
I did try the FORScan 7 speaker kicker change, but it didn't sound as good and the bass output from the sub was drastically reduced. ONLY turn on the sub in FORScan and nothing else if you have the factory non-Sony radio at least.
Thanks for this write-up... a few questions.

When you say only turn on the sub in FORScan, did you only change this one in ACM?
727-01-01 xxx8 xxxx xxxx: "Auxiliary External Subwoofer ** use this for aftermarket kicker sub & amp along with one of the 727-01-02 choices below **". It notes to also choose one of the 727-01-02 choices, which I assume you didn't do if I understand correctly...

Did the WPT speaker connections work or did you have to tap off directly from the speaker wires? Assume it did but wanted to make sure I didn't misunderstand...

Are you able to lift and lock the seat for underseat storage? Dimensionally, it looks like the Memphis will allow you to do this without having to cut the carpet/padding...
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Correct, the wording does make it look like you HAVE to use one of the second choices, but you don't. Just do the 727-01-01 change.

All connections are run off the WPT. From what I understand this will work on all XLT and up. For the subs plug, it had left and right high level, so I combined those when soldering to the WPT because it only has a single source. I think you can program the plug so it puts out low level signal through the WPT and then use RCA's but I'm not 100% sure because I didn't have to go that route.

There's plenty of room behind the seat even with the unit there. It's pretty similar to the Hideaway dimensions, it's actually a little smaller I think. I'm thinking about building a 1x4 wood frame to sit on the seat screws with sound deadening to hold the sub in place. The bungee works, but I don't like it.

Installation required zero modification to the truck other than the single Forscan change.
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Messed with it a bit more today. I turned off the factory EQ using forscan but without additional hardware the polk speakers in my doors just sounded really bad. Got enough bass out of the Nanoboxx to distort during any type of music above 18-20 on volume.

Reinstalled the factory EQ and played around with the frequency range a bit. I've almost got it dialed in to where I can ditch the control ****, but for now it's wired running under the rear floor mat and sitting in the side pocket on the center console just in case. With the factory EQ and similar audio settings to the picture I posted I can go 30 on the volume with door speakers and the sub sounding goodish on most songs, a few will distort the sub. I generally don't listen at 15-20 depending if the windows are up or down.
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Messed with it a bit more and have some more observations. 1st is that wired with the WPT1212 there is 0 issues with start stop during my commute that has a few longish stops.

The 2nd was that while I'm happy with the sound, I feel it has a bit more to give. When I turned off the EQ it easily overpowered and distorted. Which IMO means I should be able to change something so I don't have to max bass boost and gain to get where I am now. So I found some folks with the hideaway saying they preferred aux speaker instead of aux sub. I'm not sure if it actually made a difference, but I feel it's slightly louder (I've messed with it so much I'm not 100% if I'm just making myself hear an improvement). Anyway, that change is 727-01-01 xxxC xxxx xxxx (The C replaces the 8 from the Aux sub setting).

So now I'm wondering if the signal from the WPT is naturally a low level? If it is, that would mean rewiring the connections to RCAs and removing them from the Memphis high level harness would net the gains I'm looking for.

While I do intend to lengthen the power, ground, and remote wires any way, I wasn't going to do so for some time. But if someone can verify that using the WPT to run RCA's for the low level input would enable me to lower the settings and give me more headroom I'll give it a shot when I do the power wires.

I tried to take a video to show how well this unit fills in the low end, but of course you can't hear the bass change on a phone, can barely hear it on my PC which has pretty good audio and sub, and kind only kind of hear it on the home theatre so I'm guessing it's the cell phones mic that eliminates that option for showing you guys. Sorry, I tried
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I'm gonna do the powered sub soon as well. Looking at the cerwin vega 10" or something similar along those lines. Instead of using the speaker wires and forscan to from the wpt1212 plug I'm gonna get a audio control 2i converter. This will tap into the speaker wires in the b pillar and give a boosted signal to convert to rca jacks for the powered sub. Also the audio control will receive the speaker wire signal and produce an amp turn on out put for the powered sub. This way I don't have to fool with forscan at all. Just will use the power and ground from the wpt1212 is all I'll need. I see good reviews on the audiocontrol for a better stronger cleaner signal and more adjustability.



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