JBL Concert Upgrade
03-09-2017, 07:05 PM
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I found out the hard way 2 things. This system is pretty awesome. There are 2 issues.
1. This is designed on a 2015 F150 Stereo EQ Curve.
(Guess what! Ford Changed the EQ Curve in the factory HU in the 2016 and more in 2017)
So the EQ correction isn't the same which means it's all out of wack after the amp.
2. What is cool is the time alignment is still the same so it sounds like the concert is on the hood of your car.
The only way to get the EQ Curve changed is for one of us to drive to Michigan and have them re EQ the truck.
1. This is designed on a 2015 F150 Stereo EQ Curve.
(Guess what! Ford Changed the EQ Curve in the factory HU in the 2016 and more in 2017)
So the EQ correction isn't the same which means it's all out of wack after the amp.
2. What is cool is the time alignment is still the same so it sounds like the concert is on the hood of your car.
The only way to get the EQ Curve changed is for one of us to drive to Michigan and have them re EQ the truck.
03-27-2017, 04:54 PM
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I found out the hard way 2 things. This system is pretty awesome. There are 2 issues.
1. This is designed on a 2015 F150 Stereo EQ Curve.
(Guess what! Ford Changed the EQ Curve in the factory HU in the 2016 and more in 2017)
So the EQ correction isn't the same which means it's all out of wack after the amp.
2. What is cool is the time alignment is still the same so it sounds like the concert is on the hood of your car.
The only way to get the EQ Curve changed is for one of us to drive to Michigan and have them re EQ the truck.
1. This is designed on a 2015 F150 Stereo EQ Curve.
(Guess what! Ford Changed the EQ Curve in the factory HU in the 2016 and more in 2017)
So the EQ correction isn't the same which means it's all out of wack after the amp.
2. What is cool is the time alignment is still the same so it sounds like the concert is on the hood of your car.
The only way to get the EQ Curve changed is for one of us to drive to Michigan and have them re EQ the truck.
03-27-2017, 06:58 PM
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It is a given that upgrading stock speakers to after market is better. After that it depends on budget and what you want. Upgrading the door speakers alone will be better but to complete the upgrade, you need a sub, powered or amp-sub.
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03-30-2017, 03:08 PM
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Change only your front door speaker to 3 ohm JBL or Infinty 6.5". $79
you will loose your bass. Mids and highs will be 25 times better.
Then add a powered sub. I prefer Ported.
but Rockford for $150 makes a 10" that will fit under small rear seat.
It will sound 3 times better than the Sony.
So $300 and done.
I like the JL audio 10" ported but was $450.
you will loose your bass. Mids and highs will be 25 times better.
Then add a powered sub. I prefer Ported.
but Rockford for $150 makes a 10" that will fit under small rear seat.
It will sound 3 times better than the Sony.
So $300 and done.
I like the JL audio 10" ported but was $450.
03-30-2017, 03:48 PM
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Lol, sound is subjective. What sounds good to one sounds not so good to another. With this said ALL could benefit from removing the factory equalization from the system before amping. Ford does a HORRIBLE job here trying to compensate for these chinese cheapo speakers. They only sound "ok" because of the factory equalization..... as you turn the system up, it is equalized to start rolling the bass off very steeply. Keep in mind that distortion, for the most part is caused by a lack of power, not too much. 10-20% more power over the max RMS is acceptable, but under powering and driving them hard, yeah your gonna clip. Not digging in anyone's pocket here, but keep in mind what you drive, and why you selected this truck. This is not a Geo Metro.....dont go too cheap trying to save coin and wonder why your system does really sound all that much better AFTER you've spent money on new speakers. Most people will say that when they replaced their speakers with new ones that they "lost" their bass, without ever truly knowing why. High efficient speakers doesnt tell how well it will sound, only how quickly it reacts to a referenced input of power measured over a predetermined distance in a free air test. 
Very subjective topic. To be honest, if one knows how to use dampening material, I mean really understand it....a fully dampened truck with 6 1/2" components up front and 6 1/2" mid bass in the rear doors can produce a great deal MORE mid bass that the factory stuff and really hold you over until you can save for a quality amp/box/sub. Just let the instant gratification go...lol
Biggest and most over looked hurdle with the 2015+ sound systems is the factory equalization...Remove it with FORScan and your ears with thank you!
Very subjective topic. To be honest, if one knows how to use dampening material, I mean really understand it....a fully dampened truck with 6 1/2" components up front and 6 1/2" mid bass in the rear doors can produce a great deal MORE mid bass that the factory stuff and really hold you over until you can save for a quality amp/box/sub. Just let the instant gratification go...lolBiggest and most over looked hurdle with the 2015+ sound systems is the factory equalization...Remove it with FORScan and your ears with thank you!
Last edited by 2016BoostedGreyGoose; 03-30-2017 at 04:19 PM.
04-03-2017, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016BoostedGreyGoose
Lol, sound is subjective. What sounds good to one sounds not so good to another. With this said ALL could benefit from removing the factory equalization from the system before amping. Ford does a HORRIBLE job here trying to compensate for these chinese cheapo speakers. They only sound "ok" because of the factory equalization..... as you turn the system up, it is equalized to start rolling the bass off very steeply. Keep in mind that distortion, for the most part is caused by a lack of power, not too much. 10-20% more power over the max RMS is acceptable, but under powering and driving them hard, yeah your gonna clip. Not digging in anyone's pocket here, but keep in mind what you drive, and why you selected this truck. This is not a Geo Metro.....dont go too cheap trying to save coin and wonder why your system does really sound all that much better AFTER you've spent money on new speakers. Most people will say that when they replaced their speakers with new ones that they "lost" their bass, without ever truly knowing why. High efficient speakers doesnt tell how well it will sound, only how quickly it reacts to a referenced input of power measured over a predetermined distance in a free air test. Very subjective topic. To be honest, if one knows how to use dampening material, I mean really understand it....a fully dampened truck with 6 1/2" components up front and 6 1/2" mid bass in the rear doors can produce a great deal MORE mid bass that the factory stuff and really hold you over until you can save for a quality amp/box/sub. Just let the instant gratification go...lol
Biggest and most over looked hurdle with the 2015+ sound systems is the factory equalization...Remove it with FORScan and your ears with thank you!
Very subjective topic. To be honest, if one knows how to use dampening material, I mean really understand it....a fully dampened truck with 6 1/2" components up front and 6 1/2" mid bass in the rear doors can produce a great deal MORE mid bass that the factory stuff and really hold you over until you can save for a quality amp/box/sub. Just let the instant gratification go...lolBiggest and most over looked hurdle with the 2015+ sound systems is the factory equalization...Remove it with FORScan and your ears with thank you!
04-03-2017, 09:07 PM
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Thank you for the kind words bro...no, I'm in Florida. Used to live in Denver but that was awhile ago. I'm always just a few clicks away. If you want you can text me anytime, and if something is emergency, just call....lol just pm me and we can exchange info.