Already Damaged My 2nd Pioneer Sub...
#21
We just tested a 13tw5 from JL and man it sounds good. In a perfect .8 sealed enclosure, it thumps just like a decent ported regular sized sub. Let me know if you want to pick one up. Send me a PM.
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#22
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Stupid me just remembered I messed with my low pass filter. I apparently turned it down too low. Lol. Rap/EDM still thumps pretty good, rock and country is almost nothing.
Still thinking about going with a ported box and a different sub though. Lemme get a couple more paychecks under my belt and I’ll start pulling the trigger on some stuff. Finally got a job, got one check so far and it went straight to bills. Next one I’ll pull some aside and probably start on my box. I’ve got ideas to basically take what Ginty did, but make it a little bigger to hold my amp on it, and maybe gain some more space for a different sub. Not sure what will happen yet. I do my projects really weird btw, I’ll talk about stuff for months before I pull the trigger. Lol
Still thinking about going with a ported box and a different sub though. Lemme get a couple more paychecks under my belt and I’ll start pulling the trigger on some stuff. Finally got a job, got one check so far and it went straight to bills. Next one I’ll pull some aside and probably start on my box. I’ve got ideas to basically take what Ginty did, but make it a little bigger to hold my amp on it, and maybe gain some more space for a different sub. Not sure what will happen yet. I do my projects really weird btw, I’ll talk about stuff for months before I pull the trigger. Lol
#23
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Anyone ever heard of building a box that is ported with a plate that can close the port off and make it a sealed box? I’m kicking around the idea of doing that and keeping with a Pioneer sub. This one can be used ported or sealed. It needs a 3”x13” port which should be achievable behind the rear seat. If I used something like an electric exhaust cutout (with some rubber added for a better seal) I could theoretically change from a ported to a sealed box by flipping a switch. In theory this would give me the best of both worlds, but I can’t find anyone online that’s done it, so that makes me wonder if there’s a reason it won’t work.
Also, in my research I’m thinking the box I have is too small. My box is 0.35cf, the sub requires 0.35 on the low end, but once the sub is in there the box has around 0.33cf. Pioneer pairs this sub with this box, but I think it’s probably too small. That’s why I’m thinking about building a box based off of what gintyfab did, but tweaked to include a port, and to clear some of the stuff on the back of my seat (I’ve got modules on the back for the rear seat heaters).
For the port I was thinking a simple 3x3x13 port, then routing the wood at the port for a smooth transition. Im just a little concerned about buying a $300+ sub and then still not being happy. On mounting depth, to be able to lift the seat and utilize the whole floor I can’t exceed about 3.25” from what I’m seeing. Although if I needed to I could do something like plexiglass directly behind the sub to get more clearance.
Also, in my research I’m thinking the box I have is too small. My box is 0.35cf, the sub requires 0.35 on the low end, but once the sub is in there the box has around 0.33cf. Pioneer pairs this sub with this box, but I think it’s probably too small. That’s why I’m thinking about building a box based off of what gintyfab did, but tweaked to include a port, and to clear some of the stuff on the back of my seat (I’ve got modules on the back for the rear seat heaters).
For the port I was thinking a simple 3x3x13 port, then routing the wood at the port for a smooth transition. Im just a little concerned about buying a $300+ sub and then still not being happy. On mounting depth, to be able to lift the seat and utilize the whole floor I can’t exceed about 3.25” from what I’m seeing. Although if I needed to I could do something like plexiglass directly behind the sub to get more clearance.
#24
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Anyone ever heard of building a box that is ported with a plate that can close the port off and make it a sealed box? I’m kicking around the idea of doing that and keeping with a Pioneer sub. This one can be used ported or sealed. It needs a 3”x13” port which should be achievable behind the rear seat.
LINK with IMAGE here.
#25
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Yep. Port plug. Common with home theater speakers you could install the port plug (go from two ports down to one) in essence changing the port tune of the box or make it sealed. If you were just plugging your one port, it would have to be pretty secure as the pressure inside a sealed subwoofer box would probably pop a rubber plug out
LINK with IMAGE here.
LINK with IMAGE here.
#26
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Perfect! That means I’m not as crazy as I thought I was. Haha. Although maybe I am because I don’t see anyone doing it for car audio. I was thinking about anything from having a slot that would accommodate a piece of MDF with cork (or some other “seal”) on it, to having 4 bolts protruding through the box that I could put wingnuts on and bolt down a piece of MDF to cover the port. Electronic would be awesome, but I don’t think I could pull that off without spending more money than it’d be worth. Like you said, the pressure in that box would put a lot of force on whatever is covering the hole.
#27
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The only way one that can be converted will work is if I stick with the sub I have. The optimum enclosure is 0.6cf for sealed, and 0.6cf for ported. So building one of each then testing wouldn’t really change much. Most subwoofers, as y’all know, require a bigger box to go ported. This one doesn’t. I’m still kicking around ideas, but this one (assuming it would even work appropriately) seemed like the “best” of both worlds.
#28
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That is small for ported. Nice. Often the "medium" size recommended ported enclosure is close to the "large" size recommended sealed enclosure. I was thinking you would be more in the 1.25-1.5ft3 range. With that sub, build the ported box and try plugging the port and see what you like better. You lucked out with whatever subwoofer you are using. It wouldn't be hard to make a semi-permanent plug that matches the enclosure.
An electric port plug like an exhaust cutout would be awesome...
An electric port plug like an exhaust cutout would be awesome...
#29
I'm interested in learning more about this sub. Please share the info. I've never heard of a sub that requires identical airspace for both sealed and ported enclosures.
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#30
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That is small for ported. Nice. Often the "medium" size recommended ported enclosure is close to the "large" size recommended sealed enclosure. I was thinking you would be more in the 1.25-1.5ft3 range. With that sub, build the ported box and try plugging the port and see what you like better. You lucked out with whatever subwoofer you are using. It wouldn't be hard to make a semi-permanent plug that matches the enclosure.
An electric port plug like an exhaust cutout would be awesome...
An electric port plug like an exhaust cutout would be awesome...
Yeah, I’m just not sure the cost to make it work would be worth it. Lol