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2015-17 F150 XLT Audio Upgrade VSS options ~my research

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Old 03-21-2017, 04:45 PM
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Default 2015-17 F150 XLT Audio Upgrade VSS options ~my research

Hi all,

So this information has been gathered on this forum, calling and speaking with Kicker, Ford, Crutchfield, Stage3 Motor, and more.

I am struggling with the options to upgrade the audio on my '17 XLT Screw 302a Special Edition. I have come up with four basic options based around keeping the truck as factory as possible.

1. FORD OEM part#VGL3Z-18808-A $699
Designed and developed by Ford and KICKER®, the F-150 Audio Upgrade kit utilizes the custom DSP built into the radio to provide super rich bass with improved mid and high frequency response.

Enclosure is designed specifically for the F-150
100 watt RMS amp with 8” dual voice coil, long-throw woofer
Back wall of cab mounting maintains flat load floor Utilizes factory mounting points…no drilling
Compatible with 2.7L EcoBoost® with start/stop feature
REQUIRES Dealer installation and programming via OBD unless you have and can operate forscan
So I believe this is totally plug and play, I know there is a hook-up in the B pillar for the sub/amp, but does anyone know if it is in the XLT Screw '17?


2. Kicker SF150SC15 SubStage $699.95
This set up looks the same as the Ford OEM, but has a more powerful amp at 200w, not sure if it includes the DSP or not...This sub I believe needs to be wired to the battery through the fire wall grommet and installed behind the radio panel, which would require more work than the OEM.


3. Kicker PF150SC15 PowerStage $1249.95
This set up comes with the SubStage and also includes a second amp dedicated to power the stock speakers with DSP to send the bass from the speakers to the sub and input more clarity into your mids and highs. This kit will definitely require removing panels and running a wire through the firewall grommet into the engine to the battery. This looks very straight forward, but to an unskilled or unpracticed Ford owner could be a daunting task. There are some great videos to help, but not all is revealed.

4. Full Aftermarket
Anyone with audio knowledge will probably tell you to go this route, save money, way better systems, and I do not disagree. I however, am still trying to research if option 1-3 is worth it in any way shape or form.
So these are the options and if you choose to go with option 4, there are limitless options from there. All prices are MSRP and I have found lower prices by calling and talking with companies and even found a low price on FORD for the OEM with an install price for only $75... but this may be an hourly rate it does not say.

I am stuck and was wondering if any 2015-17 owners have been in my situation. I do not want to void any factory warranties as this is a brand new truck.

Okay, hope this is helpful to someone.

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Slackk do a search. There are a lot of people doing what you are doing
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Slackk do a search. There are a lot of people doing what you are doing
I am pretty sure I have read everything on this forum about this already
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So I have these final decisions:

1. Ford OEM part#VGL3Z-18808-A Kicker Sub w/100 watt ford amp installed by dealer for a final cost of $700. (only charging me $75 to install)

2. Kicker PowerStage bought and installed by local shop: final cost $1,249 + tax (basically free installation)

3. Purchase PowerStage online and install myself. I have found a number of prices online but nothing more than $150 off MSRP

Which would you choose?

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I'll throw my .02 out there. I bought the Kicker PowerStage from Amazon (prime shipping to Alaska made it the best price) and it is easily 1,000x better than the stock sound system. Is it as good as a full on custom audio build, no. But for the cost, I think it sounds better than most OEM "premium" systems.

My only complaint is that at high volumes, the OEM speakers in the doors are over-driven so I am going to replace all of the door speakers, tweeters and even the center channel with Infintiy Reference speakers to smooth out the sound at volumes I prefer with my rock music.
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Originally Posted by slackk
So I have these final decisions:

1. Ford OEM part#VGL3Z-18808-A Kicker Sub w/100 watt ford amp installed by dealer for a final cost of $700. (only charging me $75 to install)

2. Kicker PowerStage bought and installed by local shop: final cost $1,249 + tax (basically free installation)

3. Purchase PowerStage online and install myself. I have found a number of prices online but nothing more than $150 off MSRP

Which would you choose?
If you want the OEM part. Search for banner Ford. I think he's got an ad in the vendor section for the OEM kicker sub. He had the best price around before I decided to go aftermarket.
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So I am giving the Kicker VSS PowerStage a whirl.

Just ordered today from Stage3MotorSports, they had a decent price point and are throwing in a free Kicker Headphone which is fun (this promo lasts until March 31st 2017)

I will update with any install tips and my overall experience. I will also write about sound quality.

Wish me luck~!
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Originally Posted by slackk
So I am giving the Kicker VSS PowerStage a whirl.

Just ordered today from Stage3MotorSports, they had a decent price point and are throwing in a free Kicker Headphone which is fun (this promo lasts until March 31st 2017)

I will update with any install tips and my overall experience. I will also write about sound quality.

Wish me luck~!
The installation is fairly straight forward. The worst part for me was the installation of the 4-channel amp under the dash.

Also, just an FYI, I replaced my front door speakers with Infinity REF-9623ix and the rear door speakers with Infinity REF6522IX speakers and those made 1000x improvement just like the Kicker system did to the stock audio. So, now I have speakers that the Kicker amp can drive without blowing them and the sound is much cleaner. The highs are crisp but not harsh and the mid-low range bass has a seamless transition where the 6x9's in the front doors and the subwoofer work in harmony.

So, like I said before, the Kicker system makes the stock system fantastic. But if you want a little more, replacing the door speakers helps. My next step is to finish the system out by replacing the center channel and the tweeters in the A-Pillars. Then I will be done with the audio in my truck.
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Awesome, thank you. I will see how it sounds first, then contemplate those speakers. I appreciate the input.

Unfortunately my shipping was postponed and my original install has come and gone. Now the system will sit in my garage for another 2 weeks before I have the free time

I will update date immediately after the install for those that are curious.
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Originally Posted by SportRanger
I'll throw my .02 out there. I bought the Kicker PowerStage from Amazon (prime shipping to Alaska made it the best price) and it is easily 1,000x better than the stock sound system. Is it as good as a full on custom audio build, no. But for the cost, I think it sounds better than most OEM "premium" systems.

My only complaint is that at high volumes, the OEM speakers in the doors are over-driven so I am going to replace all of the door speakers, tweeters and even the center channel with Infintiy Reference speakers to smooth out the sound at volumes I prefer with my rock music.
This is not the case.... To be over driven they would have to have MOE power than they can handle. Its actually the opposite AND the big one, the DSP. As good as some think it is....it causes more distortion than music. At higher volumes, the DSP equalization starts to compress frequencies in a truncated manor that just doesnt sound accurate. yes better that standard oem, but still very oem and very very limited in frequency reproduction.
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