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Issue: Is X-Plan pricing from OEM a good deal?
Certain buyers qualify for X-plan pricing on new Ford vehicle sales. It entitles the customer to a fixed markup or discount (depending on the plan you qualify for) on dealer’s invoice price plus any rebates offered at that time. Is it a good deal? The answer is sometimes yes and sometimes no. Other factors, such as available inventory, local competition, local demand for that model, can influence local car prices.
TennisFam4, a retired Ford employee, states
·Some dealers may not be showing you the real invoice in an effort to increase the sales price. The invoice the dealer should be showing you states the X-Plan prices at the bottom of the page.
·The potential savings are generally greater on higher priced vehicles, which typically have higher margins.
Read the full discussion below.
Certain buyers qualify for X-plan pricing on new Ford vehicle sales. It entitles the customer to a fixed markup or discount (depending on the plan you qualify for) on dealer’s invoice price plus any rebates offered at that time. Is it a good deal? The answer is sometimes yes and sometimes no. Other factors, such as available inventory, local competition, local demand for that model, can influence local car prices.
TennisFam4, a retired Ford employee, states
·Some dealers may not be showing you the real invoice in an effort to increase the sales price. The invoice the dealer should be showing you states the X-Plan prices at the bottom of the page.
·The potential savings are generally greater on higher priced vehicles, which typically have higher margins.
Read the full discussion below.
X-Plan Pricing Sucks
06-09-2012, 11:32 AM
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It may be possible to get a better deal than X-Plan, but saves a lot of hassle fore a pretty good deal. Mine was a little over $3200 plus the dealer was limited to a $100 doc fee which saved another $300 on a 12 FX2 SCrew.
06-09-2012, 11:40 AM
#12
When I told the sales manager that my wife qualified for x plan through her work, he said don't worry about it, we sell trucks at dealer invoice which is a few hundred less than x plan.
06-09-2012, 05:26 PM
#13
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Choose which ever gives you the best deal.
I got an extra $750 rebate using X, and dealer fee went from $299 to 100.
so using X plan saved me $949 more.
( I forget what the difference in invoice and X was....not much..posted earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Read back, it was $61 difference. so I saved $888 more using X plan than if I had used invoice pricing.
I got an extra $750 rebate using X, and dealer fee went from $299 to 100.
so using X plan saved me $949 more.
( I forget what the difference in invoice and X was....not much..posted earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Read back, it was $61 difference. so I saved $888 more using X plan than if I had used invoice pricing.
06-10-2012, 06:59 AM
#14
Senior Member
Don't think we've been particularly discussing x-plan on RANGER'S here.....
X-plan works better on a more expensive vehicle where there is some markup!
By the way, RANGER'S have been selling like hotcakes around here. EOF was in 2011. One dealer had 30 and in 1 month, they were all gone.
Could have had one myself for way under invoice plus about 5,750 off.
My dealer had 6 and sold out in the last week of the month in Feb!
X-plan works better on a more expensive vehicle where there is some markup!
By the way, RANGER'S have been selling like hotcakes around here. EOF was in 2011. One dealer had 30 and in 1 month, they were all gone.
Could have had one myself for way under invoice plus about 5,750 off.
My dealer had 6 and sold out in the last week of the month in Feb!
06-10-2012, 07:49 AM
#15
What ever the price is, it's still too much!
The world is insane, and it’s getting worse.
X-Plan is nothing more that today’s MSRP. If you are paying “more” than X-Plan, it only means they have another dufus on the line, hook line and sinker.
Great, so my 2011 XLT with fake MSRP 37,000 cost me 29,000 with X-Plan and all the dum A rebates. Really, so I paid 29,000 for something that cost 10 times what it should have. I still got screwed.
1. Actual Cost of Truck 2,900
2. Health insurance for other people 8,700 (I can’t afford it)
3. Forced Potus Reelection Fee 2,900
4. EPA Regulation Fee 2,900
5. EU Bailout Fee 2,900 -
6. FED Monetary Easing Fee 5,800
7. China Interest Fee 2,900
8. US Banking Bailouts 2,900
Well Fell Hire, I did get bargain! The truck was really 31,900. I saved 2,900 - Mable Jean I Have Been Saved!
Last week Merkel had an emergency call to the Wizard of OZ (Bernanke) and demanded that we “print” another trillion for Spain immediately. Of course Scarecrow (worshipped here as Potus), said “we will do it as fast as we can”.
This week the bargain basement price of Tide is only $25 a box. Next year it will be $50. Better buy (or steal) your Tide now.
X-Plan is nothing more that today’s MSRP. If you are paying “more” than X-Plan, it only means they have another dufus on the line, hook line and sinker.
Great, so my 2011 XLT with fake MSRP 37,000 cost me 29,000 with X-Plan and all the dum A rebates. Really, so I paid 29,000 for something that cost 10 times what it should have. I still got screwed.
1. Actual Cost of Truck 2,900
2. Health insurance for other people 8,700 (I can’t afford it)
3. Forced Potus Reelection Fee 2,900
4. EPA Regulation Fee 2,900
5. EU Bailout Fee 2,900 -
6. FED Monetary Easing Fee 5,800
7. China Interest Fee 2,900
8. US Banking Bailouts 2,900
Well Fell Hire, I did get bargain! The truck was really 31,900. I saved 2,900 - Mable Jean I Have Been Saved!
Last week Merkel had an emergency call to the Wizard of OZ (Bernanke) and demanded that we “print” another trillion for Spain immediately. Of course Scarecrow (worshipped here as Potus), said “we will do it as fast as we can”.
This week the bargain basement price of Tide is only $25 a box. Next year it will be $50. Better buy (or steal) your Tide now.
06-10-2012, 07:46 PM
#17
Senior Member
06-10-2012, 08:26 PM
#18
Senior Member
I have never worried about rebates at any time in my life. Everytime I make a major purchase I already know how much I'm going to pay for it and I keep pressing the salesperson until I get what I want.
06-10-2012, 08:42 PM
#19
Senior Member
But in the research of deciding WHAT you were going to pay for them, you have to factor in rebates if they were included in the product to come to a educated final price estimate.
06-11-2012, 04:56 AM
#20
Senior Member
Ok guys I will try and explain this again. I am a retired Ford employee and have been dealing with the axz plan for over 30 years. There is a post somewhere on this forum with an actual copy of a invoice a dealer is required to show you if you are a plan buyer. X-plan is 2% above the dealers cost of that vehicle, A- plan is 2% below dealers cost, Z-plan is the same as A-plan but is used for retirees. The invoice the dealer should be showing you states these prices along the bottom of the page. The dealer has invoices that do not show these prices it just shows a invoice price, what price I do not know. AXZ plan purchases also includes all rebates that are offered. So if there are that's say $3000 in rebates subtract that from the AXZ plan price. A dealer may be able to beat axz plan on left over models that they need to unload. All I am saying is make sure you are seeing the real AXZ plan invoice. One more thing the more expensive the vehicle the more you save.
Last edited by tennisfam4; 06-11-2012 at 04:59 AM.