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Old 02-08-2019, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bassJAM View Post
A large loaded crew cab truck is just another sign how lost in consumerism we are. It fits in perfectly with all the other things Americans can't always afford, but purchase anyway and then complain that they can't save any money. Large cable TV packages, 70" TV's, new iPhones and expensive data plans, a closet full of clothes that are never worn, houses twice the size of a generation ago (but with smaller families), and the list goes on.

Sure, my grandparents, part of the "greatest generation" had simple jobs that paid well. But they also had small homes, one family vehicle, and very few "luxury items". The little disposable income they had went in the bank instead of to Walmart and Amazon. I remember back in the 80's as a kid thinking it was CRAZY that one of my grandpas still had a manual drill! But he didn't see the need like we do for power drills (and now cordless drills). He was a mechanic at a factory, yet his home tool box that he used to fix literally everything was small enough to carry from room to room. My toolbox is 6' tall, with another 4' tall box sitting next to it, both filled to the brim. He also push mowed his 1+ acre yard, now it seems we all need zero turn mowers for our 1/8 acre lots.

I'm very fortunate to have a good job and a wife that runs a successful business from home. I admit I could get by without a truck, especially one as nice as mine. But I can afford it, and I also choose to buy something that's 2-3 years old and drive it until it hits 200,000 miles so I get my money's worth out of it. It does kill me when I see guys making far less than me bringing home new Platinum's and Raptors. And they use them to tow their new Polaris RZR's around, or even worse, Harley's. Sometimes over beers I'll switch the conversation to retirement, and I always get the same answer: "I'll worry about saving for retirement when I'm in my 40's or 50's". Well I've got news for them, they'll also be working up through their 70's or 80's. then.
i 100% agree. Granted I'm only 28 years old but hell i started a 401K 5 years ago at work when i first became eligible. Never too early to think retirement
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:24 AM
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I think another factor is the invention of the crew cab. Once trucks started coming with 4 full doors and the ability to seat as many people as a car, the crew cab truck became the family car for many previous mini-van families. The truck is much more flexible than the mini-van. Once the mini-van families started migrating to trucks, the comfort options and accessories followed.
Though I will never be able to comprehend massage seats in a truck lol
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by finsfan21 View Post
I think another factor is the invention of the crew cab. Once trucks started coming with 4 full doors and the ability to seat as many people as a car, the crew cab truck became the family car for many previous mini-van families. The truck is much more flexible than the mini-van. Once the mini-van families started migrating to trucks, the comfort options and accessories followed.
Though I will never be able to comprehend massage seats in a truck lol
and a crew cab truck you get to keep your man card
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Just some breakdown. Wife and I were factory workers hourly for 44 years (retired 5 years ago). We buy for long term ownership. Last truck I bought was in 1995 cost less than $15000 base 4x4 RCSB Ranger, our income combined 35k. 2017 XL listed above paid in cash under 27k, it has nav in the form of Garmin Nuvi passed on, installed Decked Drawers $1100, Exhaust System $400, Wheels and Tires $1300, Tuner $500, Suspension $1900, Stereo $600. With misc. appearance stuff added and such, total around $34000.
I didn't want 4x4, done that been there. Or a fancy interior, bench and vynil floor suit my uses. Performance, sound, appearance, all I consider my user preference over factory offerings installing accordingly. As I only have a 1 car garrage to work with, and that is occupied by a 2016 Edge Sport, the big items were installed commercially, labor included in prices above. I still get dirty with some stuff nothing heavy.


I hunt, fish, backpack, and wilderness, canoe trip, general camping, hiking, Also attend 3-4 historic and vintage road races each year and never lost interest in automotive fun. This fits me perfectly, comfortably, economically. So much I put 20000 miles on the odometer first 14 months, prior driving averaged 7000.
Factor in economic updates it is very comparable to our first new vehicle purchased in 1972 in cost and value. But much more reliable now!
In answer to the OP, it is entirely possible to find base model and up vehicles, optioned or owner configured, as desired. The purchaser just needs to spend due diligence to obtain one. That hasn't changed at all. KM
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IDK, I guess at my age (56) I want to be spoiled a little , I sure don't want to go back to the days of my first F Series ! That truck had precisely ZERO options... manual steering, manual brakes, 250ci 6, and a 3-on-the-tree. My 302a XLT is all the truck I could want options wise, just don't feel any need to go higher up the food chain so to speak.

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Old 02-08-2019, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rmc63 View Post
IDK, I guess at my age (56) I want to be spoiled a little , I sure don't want to go back to the days of my first F Series ! That truck had precisely ZERO options... manual steering, manual brakes, 250ci 6, and a 3-on-the-three. My 302a XLT is all the truck I could want options wise, just don't feel any need to go higher up the food chain so to speak.
what year was it?
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what year was it?
She was a 1972 !
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Originally Posted by finsfan21 View Post
I think another factor is the invention of the crew cab. Once trucks started coming with 4 full doors and the ability to seat as many people as a car, the crew cab truck became the family car for many previous mini-van families. The truck is much more flexible than the mini-van. Once the mini-van families started migrating to trucks, the comfort options and accessories followed.
Though I will never be able to comprehend massage seats in a truck lol
As an owner of both a crew can and a minivan, I completely disagree. We bought my truck back when my wife still had a Honda CR-V with the mindset that the truck would be the family hauler, and my crewcab certainly was better than the CRV. But my wife decided this past year she wanted a minivan, and I gotta say her Sienna is much more versatile than the truck as a family vehicle. Access is easier for both putting kids in carseats and letting the kids climb in themselves. The front seats are more comfortable than my F150's. Having a low, large trunk is better than my high bed, even with a hard cover on it. In a pinch the seats fold down, I could even load full sheets of plywood or drywall if I needed too. The only downside is not having a bed, but I plan on adding a hitch so I can pull my trailer for trips to the lake when we're hauling kayaks and the stand up paddleboard. We've got a 4th kid on the way, so my truck won't even fit the entire family soon unless I sold it and got one with a front bench seat.

Honestly, the minivan has tighter handling and better steering response than my truck and more than enough power to chirp the tires, so I don't even mind driving it when we all go out.
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Originally Posted by rmc63 View Post
She was a 1972 !
i want one of those, i love the late 60s-early 70s F-series
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This thread reminds me of having lunch with my mom telling me about the soda pop she used to pay 5 cents for...
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