trying to decide betweem 2wd or 4wd
09-16-2018, 10:06 PM
#61
Living in Florida panhandle with 2wd is quite good until the day comes to sell the truck. It's harder to unload a 2wd than one with 4wd.
The '16 F150 2wd I had was suddenly an undesirable truck with dealers belly aching about the low low low demand. Funny, I never heard about that plight when I shopped for it a couple of years ago.
My '07 and '09 trucks were 4wd and were quick and easy in getting good resale (they looked new with 60k on the clock). I learned my lesson. It's 4wd for quick and easy resale for me.
The '16 F150 2wd I had was suddenly an undesirable truck with dealers belly aching about the low low low demand. Funny, I never heard about that plight when I shopped for it a couple of years ago.
My '07 and '09 trucks were 4wd and were quick and easy in getting good resale (they looked new with 60k on the clock). I learned my lesson. It's 4wd for quick and easy resale for me.
09-16-2018, 10:08 PM
#62
My opinion...I would never buy a vehicle with a feature of little value to me just because of resale value. You lose money on the depreciation of the 4 wheel drive component you paid extra for in the first place. So if you pay an extra $5k for 4x4, and that generates you an extra $3k selling price when reselling, you've spent and lost $2k for a feature you didn't use.
The only way it would make sense is if you can reclaim all of the extra 4x4 cost when re-selling. In my example, that would mean you'd have to get an extra $5k to cover the cost of buying it with 4x4 in the first place. But I doubt you can actually get that kind of return. This is a terrible way to invest money...why invest money into a feature that will generate you zero return after several years.
Better plan - save the extra money you would have spent on 4x4 and invest it, or pay off credit card debt and gain yourself 18% per year, or your mortgage or LOC...
The only way it would make sense is if you can reclaim all of the extra 4x4 cost when re-selling. In my example, that would mean you'd have to get an extra $5k to cover the cost of buying it with 4x4 in the first place. But I doubt you can actually get that kind of return. This is a terrible way to invest money...why invest money into a feature that will generate you zero return after several years.
Better plan - save the extra money you would have spent on 4x4 and invest it, or pay off credit card debt and gain yourself 18% per year, or your mortgage or LOC...
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09-17-2018, 03:52 PM
#63
My opinion...I would never buy a vehicle with a feature of little value to me just because of resale value. You lose money on the depreciation of the 4 wheel drive component you paid extra for in the first place. So if you pay an extra $5k for 4x4, and that generates you an extra $3k selling price when reselling, you've spent and lost $2k for a feature you didn't use.
The only way it would make sense is if you can reclaim all of the extra 4x4 cost when re-selling. In my example, that would mean you'd have to get an extra $5k to cover the cost of buying it with 4x4 in the first place. But I doubt you can actually get that kind of return. This is a terrible way to invest money...why invest money into a feature that will generate you zero return after several years.
Better plan - save the extra money you would have spent on 4x4 and invest it, or pay off credit card debt and gain yourself 18% per year, or your mortgage or LOC...
The only way it would make sense is if you can reclaim all of the extra 4x4 cost when re-selling. In my example, that would mean you'd have to get an extra $5k to cover the cost of buying it with 4x4 in the first place. But I doubt you can actually get that kind of return. This is a terrible way to invest money...why invest money into a feature that will generate you zero return after several years.
Better plan - save the extra money you would have spent on 4x4 and invest it, or pay off credit card debt and gain yourself 18% per year, or your mortgage or LOC...
It helps that I prefer Sport and Elocker has high Value to me.
Cost
Elocker = $470 MSRP ($420 Est)
FX4 = $770 MSRP ($685 Est)
Sport - $300 MSRP on 302A ($270 Est)
Resale
Elocker = $0 NADA
FX4 = $450 NADA
Sport - $1,000 NADA
Sport FX4 saves me roughly $915 over my ownership of the truck over Chrome and Elocker.
Last edited by Gene K; 09-17-2018 at 04:04 PM.
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09-17-2018, 04:30 PM
#64
Senior Member
I have always wondered the same thing, I have always been too cheap to get 4WD and got the 2WD and managed to make it work but, I have gone down many a dirt road and got to a point where I stopped and said no way, and had to back out for quite a way because I knew my truck would get stuck. I have had problems too on the boat ramp but, a locker rear end would have fixed that just fine. I bought a 4WD truck this year, my first and I am loving it, even went down one of those dirt (mud) roads and went for it and she pulled through it just fine without a hitch and that is with the stock street tires it came with too. I'm sold.
09-17-2018, 10:03 PM
#65
I have always wondered the same thing, I have always been too cheap to get 4WD and got the 2WD and managed to make it work but, I have gone down many a dirt road and got to a point where I stopped and said no way, and had to back out for quite a way because I knew my truck would get stuck. I have had problems too on the boat ramp but, a locker rear end would have fixed that just fine. I bought a 4WD truck this year, my first and I am loving it, even went down one of those dirt (mud) roads and went for it and she pulled through it just fine without a hitch and that is with the stock street tires it came with too. I'm sold.
09-17-2018, 10:05 PM
#66
I’ve had a ton of 2wd trucks and a handful of 4wds, my last truck was 4wd and I used it twice.. once off-roading on the trails and once driving down on my land where I should’ve been in my mule. Use case isn’t there for me, doesn’t mean it isn’t there for someone else.
09-18-2018, 07:22 AM
#67
Senior Member
I think the locking differential would take care of most situations short of off road mudding of course but, now that these things are getting over 23 mpg on the highway, it is hard to say no.
09-18-2018, 12:23 PM
#68
She probably has an Focus RS then, which is AWD. That's the only Focus I'm aware of that came from the factory with a limited slip differential.
Otherwise she probably has Advance trac if it's a newer Focus, which really isn't the same thing. Very few FWD cars have limited slips unless they are performance oriented cars like the Civic Si.
Otherwise she probably has Advance trac if it's a newer Focus, which really isn't the same thing. Very few FWD cars have limited slips unless they are performance oriented cars like the Civic Si.
09-18-2018, 04:17 PM
#69
Some Focus ST can be had with an LS type diff called Quaife. It would be a factory order though via Ford Performance and I think for 2015 models up to when the RS came out.
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09-19-2018, 05:46 AM
#70
She probably has an Focus RS then, which is AWD. That's the only Focus I'm aware of that came from the factory with a limited slip differential.
Otherwise she probably has Advance trac if it's a newer Focus, which really isn't the same thing. Very few FWD cars have limited slips unless they are performance oriented cars like the Civic Si.
Otherwise she probably has Advance trac if it's a newer Focus, which really isn't the same thing. Very few FWD cars have limited slips unless they are performance oriented cars like the Civic Si.