Makoto

stating peak power figures is utterly meaningless when it comes to performance.

UncleFester

Either an engine can produce the necessary power or it can't. Trucks have been safely towing 5,000 pounds or less for years with a less horse power/torque than a 2.7EB offers.

atwowheelguy

If the Tacoma does the job, the 2.7 will make you happy. As another said before, be aware of payload if you ever plan to tow a camper. Compare the payload of the 2.7 to the Tacoma and to a 3.5EB. Kids will get grow and the bigger truck will enable you to bring more stuff. Just be sure you have the payload to haul it all.



I have a '13 3.5 EB, but back then the only other choice was the 5.0 V8. I'm glad I went with the turbo. It's great for towing. I need the higher payload because of a 1000 lb. toy hauler tongue weight.

I tow a 6800 lb. toy hauler and get 10-12 mpg in the southeast.





I recently got 14.2 mpg towing a 3500 lb., 6x14 enclosed trailer from GA to CO and back, 4500 miles. My truck has 110,000 miles on it.



Yes, the ten speed makes a difference. It enables a lower numerical rear end ratio to pull like a higher gear ratio in the lower gears, but still turn fewer rpms at highway speeds for better fuel economy. A 3.15 ten speed has the same first gear final drive ratio as a 3.55 six speed.

Makoto

of course, the point I was making was that people ignore the fact that the 2.7TT makes most of its torque in the low to mid range unlike the V8 offering which has nearly all its power in the mid to high end range.

turbo motors make tons of torque lower in the powerband compared to NA motors. its a common misconception that they don't but that can be fixed with some edumacation in most cases

chimmike

A lot of the fear is that turbos are "new" technology. Quite the opposite. Keep in mind diesels have been utilizing turbos for decades. This is just a 'first' for use in a light pickup. Don't let that dissuade you from the pros to ecoboost motors.

sailorjerry

While this statement is true, I would not consider it to be accurate. Diesel motors by nature are already quite large in displacement and could generally pull the load regardless if they were turbo or NA.

The best example I can give is the differences between a 7.3 IDI diesel and a 7.3 turbo diesel. Neither of these diesels had any real differences in the load that they could pull, but people preferred turbo diesels because they wanted to pull their campers at 80MPH.

In the case of the turbo f150's, the turbos are being utilized to create performance that would of been vastly unobtainable with out the forced air induction. The engineering challenges that need to be overcame to produce performance are completely different.

chimmike

Take, for example, the small diesels, such as the VW TDI's. Ain't no 2L non-turbo diesel going to make 150hp and 230ft-lbs of torque.

Point being, turbos have made diesels more efficient and powerful for decades, and the only reason they haven't been used in cars is because for decades fuel costs were low and displacement ruled. Efficiency and emissions changes have forced hand. Look at all the Mercedes, BMW, and audi turbo motors in high-end cars? Or smaller-displacement V8 twin turbos making the same power with less effort and better powerbands!

RLXXI

Fords first attempt at gas turbo was in the 80's, they made that 4 cyl Turbo coupe T-Bird, epic failure. Those things would move once you got the engine breathing but were a royal pita to work on when they stopped working which was quite frequently, maybe I'm biased because I worked on them at a dealer and saw more of them.
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Makoto

to the contrary, the SVO mustang came before that and absolutely wrecked shop on all the V8's that were struggling with the new super restrictive emissions requirements before they figured out how to make power again. To top it off, those engines were awesome.

have you looked under the hood of a 2.7? tons of room to work. that's one of the things I consider when buying a car because I know I'll be turning wrenches on it at some point. the turbos couldn't be more accessible. its amazing to me how much thought ford put into this engine. its built like a diesel.

RLXXI

It's obvious the technology has improved greatly as far as turbo power goes. Never worked on an SVO our dealer was not certified, just your regular old small farming town dealer, we sold mostly trucks. I remember when the 7.3 DI powerstrokes came out in mid 94. They sent me to school for 2 weeks to get certified on them. Those are pretty easy to work on, I left in 2004 when the new 6.0 came out, I opened the hood and thanked gawd I was leaving, that's one huge headache under that hood.

You don't have to sell me on turbo anything I'm well aware of how the technology works.
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