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Old 02-12-2019, 11:43 AM
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I will only run a Non-Ethanol gas in my truck. I pay more for it but the mileage is also better.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:54 AM
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I run top tier gas only in my 2018 V8. Not much, if any, more expensive than no name brands. In fact, its actually cheaper at the moment. New Wawa station started a mini gas war with the Conoco station next door. So, for the past 3 months I've been buying top tier Conoco at $2.11/gal or less.
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Going out on limb here but i am guessing that most of the gas is supplied from the same source and while the marketing claims to use additives and cleaners and all that other *****, the difference is probably minimal. The biggest impact I see is with mileage and whether there is more ethanol in the gas. Unless you literally get bad gas the difference in like octane is probably un-noticeable to the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk View Post
You said that most brands are Top Tier. While a lot of brands are Top Tier, it's no where near most. Kroger, a major gas retailer, is not Top Tier for example. Neither is Sam's Club. or Speedway (#4 in market share in US) or Circle K (#6 in market share).

You also said that unbranded gas stations may be Top Tier. While they may have detergents in the fuel, it's not going to be Top Tier gas, which has a higher level of concentration of detergents. Further, some Top Tier brands follow even stricter standards, like Costco, with better filtration management for one thing. AAA study
I consider 'brand' as the petroleum company, Kroger, Costco, and etc. are distributors. Mom and Pop stores buying off the spot market may have one drop from a top tier brand and the next not from a top tier brand, just depends on availability.

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I consider 'brand' as the petroleum company, Kroger, Costco, and etc. are distributors. Mom and Pop stores buying off the spot market may have one drop from a top tier brand and the next not from a top tier brand, just depends on availability.

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Actually, they would be retailers. They buy from distributors.

As I understand, the additive packages of the various retailers get added on the way out of the depot. So, Mom and Pop probably aren't getting top tier gas.
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Going out on limb here but i am guessing that most of the gas is supplied from the same source and while the marketing claims to use additives and cleaners and all that other *****, the difference is probably minimal.
Depends. Would you call this "minimal"?

The first step was to do more research on additives and engine performance. Costco commissioned intake valve deposit testing by nationally accredited labs and reached important conclusions. “Our tests showed that the optimum amount of detergent additive was approximately five times the government minimum,” says Jeff (see “The case for clean”).Further testing showed removal of the majority of intake valve deposits with the consistent use of Costco’s Kirkland Signature Gasoline, Jeff explains.
https://www.costcoauto.com/automotiv...gas_nozip.aspx

As I understand, the additive packages of the various retailers get added on the way out of the depot. So, Mom and Pop probably aren't getting top tier gas.
You are correct. I was filling up at Costco a year or two ago, right next to a fuel truck making a delivery.

The truck was unmarked, so I asked the driver what made the gas "Top Tier". He said that every delivery had a detergent package added at the customer's request, and Top Tier was the best package.

I guess it's like a cement truck, you can order cement in a 4, 5 or 6 bag mix.
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Must be a marketing thing in the USA.

I have never noticed any fuel stations in Canada that advertise as "Top Tier"

I am sure all our Fuel in Canada is Top Tier, but maybe I am wrong.

I usually fill at Co-Op gas stations, with 87 regular. I think all our Regular fuel is blended with 10% ethanol.





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Originally Posted by baddceo View Post
Going out on limb here but i am guessing that most of the gas is supplied from the same source and while the marketing claims to use additives and cleaners and all that other *****, the difference is probably minimal. The biggest impact I see is with mileage and whether there is more ethanol in the gas. Unless you literally get bad gas the difference in like octane is probably un-noticeable to the vehicle.
You'd be guessing wrong. Read the links and learn.
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Originally Posted by cdlamb View Post
Must be a marketing thing in the USA.

I have never noticed any fuel stations in Canada that advertise as "Top Tier"

I am sure all our Fuel in Canada is Top Tier, but maybe I am wrong.

I usually fill at Co-Op gas stations, with 87 regular. I think all our Regular fuel is blended with 10% ethanol.

I've never noticed a "Top Tier" advertisement at gas stations in the US either, but there is a website you can go to in order to determine which brands are Top Tier. I see Canada on the list, so this applies to you as well.

https://toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:23 PM
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I've never noticed a "Top Tier" advertisement at gas stations in the US either,
For some reason, some pumps just have a subtle Top Tier decal, Costco and Shell are the first 2 pics.

And then there is Arco, LOL, in the last pic. I've found that sometimes you have to hunt for the sticker on the pump.










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