This sold me on the Ford F-150 compared to the competition.
12-07-2018, 09:20 AM
#22
Do the same thing when they're 10 years old with 200,000+ miles on them and compare the service history. If someone was tasked with taking a coast to coast trip in a 2005 Toyota Camry with 250,000 miles or a 2005 Ford Fusion with 250,000 miles the vast majority of people would take the Camry.
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12-07-2018, 03:31 PM
#24
In regards to Asian sedans I wouldn't touch a Hyundai or a Kia with a 100 meter cattle prod. I work a second job this time of year with a company that does parts department inventories and what I see in Hyundai and Kia parts depts scares the crap out of me! One store we recently counted (a large suburban Cleveland dealer) had 31 engine cores waiting for pick up... THIRTY-ONE!!! And that was just a month's worth of what that particular dealer was replacing! Their engines are suffering from major oil consumption problems with few miles on them, some engines barely over 10k miles are needing replaced. Absolute junk. I've been in the dealership parts business for going on 30 years and I've never seen anything like this, not even during the old 3.8L Essex V6 head gasket recall days.
10-05-2019, 02:01 AM
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The Hammer
Some people have a knack of destroying a car and I also think there is that factor too, but that is another debate. People who buy foreign cars are always trying to justify their reasons for it, I have seen Toyota owners who swear they will never buy a American car and list the minor problems with the one used one they bought , then I hear then talk about their Toyota is in the shop for some issue and well it's okay It's a Toyota. Huh?
I'm not saying Japanese cars are not good cars, they are, just not buying that they are all that much better. There is a following and those people will buy them no matter what and that also helps in their resale value.
Currently driving a '09 Chevy Malibu, for work, I run the crap out of that car and it is a low end car, it just rolled over 191,000, runs great and there is nothing wrong with it, our company bought it used at auction, fleet cars. In fact we have 3 of them.
I'm not saying Japanese cars are not good cars, they are, just not buying that they are all that much better. There is a following and those people will buy them no matter what and that also helps in their resale value.
Currently driving a '09 Chevy Malibu, for work, I run the crap out of that car and it is a low end car, it just rolled over 191,000, runs great and there is nothing wrong with it, our company bought it used at auction, fleet cars. In fact we have 3 of them.
He is constantly giving me crap for driving a lowly, American made F150, and telling me how unreliable it is. My response is always pointing out the previously mentioned examples and telling him that Ford has never told me that they don't know how to fix it or that it's normal. I have had minimal trouble with both F150s I have had, and 2 diesel F250s before them. But there is no reasoning with the insane. This guy will continue to buy Toyota products, no matter what crap they keep feeding him. It's also not hard to imagine that some Toyota products are more reliable, but they use proven, 20 year old technology to get that reliability. His 2013 Tacoma uses engine and chassis designs from the late 1990s. Just like the 2019 Tundra is using engine and chassis designs that are at least 15 years old. I sure hope they have perfected that stuff by now. Except in crash testing, which shows the Tundra is least safest full size truck on the market. I would rather have a vehicle that is more up to date, and much safer to boot. I'll gladly trade in a small amount of reliability for new technology. Plus, there is an amazing number of F-Series trucks on the road with 150K miles plus with minimal repairs. I used to be a Chevy man, like I was raised to be, until the 90s, when I got 3 crap trucks in a row. I said no more, went to Ford, and I have never looked back. The only vehicle in my life that left me stranded on the side of the road was a 1996 Chevy truck. I won't make that mistake again.
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10-05-2019, 10:48 AM
#27
I had an 09 Camry Hybrid, it was the cheapest made car for that price. I replaced it with a 2010 Fusion, and the Ford was just so much nicer inside. It was also quieter, handled better, and had no squeaks like the Camry did. I also had a Prius, hated that damned thing. Went back to Ford and haven't wanted anything else. My 18 F150 so far has been mostly excellent. I did have to have some updates, and had the APIM replaced, but I could have lived with how it was since it had zero affect on reliability, just some annoying quirks.