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Old 06-06-2019, 11:29 AM
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Hereís a link to a thread about one wheel spin control. With this feature the f150 is a very capable truck. Especially with e lock

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/one-wh...ontrol-153704/

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Old 06-06-2019, 11:41 AM
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Not sure if my truck includes the anti-spin control. If it does, it doesn't work. My truck got stuck in a rut in my driveway and would only spin the right tire. Engaged the E-lock rear and it drove straight out of it. Didn't need 4wd, but needed the E-lock.

We have a car with the "electronic limited slip" which is really just the spin control that engages the caliper to control wheel speed. It also does not work. Under hard throttle (when you want to accelerate) the system kicks in and slows the acceleration.

Applying a brake when the goal is to accelerate is a very poor substitution for mechanical traction.
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To make it really work good. Turn off traction control and then press and hold button for 8 seconds to turn off (reduce) stability control. Then it will be as close to a pre 2000 truck as you can get

yes I agree that apply brakes is counter intuitive to move forward. But Iíve seen it work in deep snow and it does itís intended job Plus brain will turn it off if it senses to much brake heat

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Originally Posted by akincan View Post
To make it really work good. Turn off traction control and then press and hold button for 8 seconds to turn off (reduce) stability control. Then it will be as close to a pre 2000 truck as you can get
That would turn off the anti-spin, not make it work better.
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Originally Posted by sholxgt View Post
That would turn off the anti-spin, not make it work better.

You could be right and and I may be mistaken in the nuances of how the system works.
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Originally Posted by sholxgt View Post
Not sure if my truck includes the anti-spin control. If it does, it doesn't work. My truck got stuck in a rut in my driveway and would only spin the right tire. Engaged the E-lock rear and it drove straight out of it. Didn't need 4wd, but needed the E-lock.

We have a car with the "electronic limited slip" which is really just the spin control that engages the caliper to control wheel speed. It also does not work. Under hard throttle (when you want to accelerate) the system kicks in and slows the acceleration.

Applying a brake when the goal is to accelerate is a very poor substitution for mechanical traction.
Mine has the electronic limited slip. It works, but is slow to kick in and still doesn't work nearly as well as a clutch based or other mechanical limited slip. I have to be SUPER easy on the throttle when turning around in yards, and even then half the time I still spin out for about 3' before the system kicks in. It seems to work OK as stability control as I've tested it out on open roads in the snow, but it does a poor job at traction control.
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My old 2011 E-150 work van, my 2010 V6 Mustang and my wife's 2010 Explorer are all the electronic give me a second to get you stuck crap on them. I live 3/4 of the way up a hill and in the snow my 2013 Mustang and my truck with the locker on make it up no problem. Turn all the Nannies off on the other three and hit the gas stay in the loose snow and made it every time, Nannies on they keep cutting power till you are trying to get unstuck at an idle. My 2013 came back from the Ford dealer with the Summer only tires on and made it into my garage with the Limited slip in Sport mode and a 4X4 Chevy dually got stuck below my driveway with 1 front and 1 rear set spinning about 10 minutes later.

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Old 06-30-2019, 08:34 AM
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2017 2WD with the electronic locker and I love it. I have never been a 4WD fan since I have never needed it and it is just 2WD from different axles. However, a locking diff is great. If I am on a slippery boat ramp I switch the locker on and drive on up. It is definitely the best of both worlds.
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Good i fo in this post....in Ohio winters it is need to know stuff
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Originally Posted by sholxgt View Post
Not sure if my truck includes the anti-spin control. If it does, it doesn't work. My truck got stuck in a rut in my driveway and would only spin the right tire. Engaged the E-lock rear and it drove straight out of it. Didn't need 4wd, but needed the E-lock.

We have a car with the "electronic limited slip" which is really just the spin control that engages the caliper to control wheel speed. It also does not work. Under hard throttle (when you want to accelerate) the system kicks in and slows the acceleration.

Applying a brake when the goal is to accelerate is a very poor substitution for mechanical traction.
IMO, the anti-spin by brake apply as you call it is garbage in these trucks.
It kicks in way too late to do any real good.

Tried an anti-spin experiment one time with the system set to normal with no custom settings.
Right rear tire on the road's gravel shoulder and the left rear tire on the pavement.
After around 6 seconds of the right tire spinning and throwing up gravel, the anti-spin did eventually kick in.

Far as the e-locker, it comes in real handy when taking off from a gravely, sandy, snowy, icy, rainy or otherwise slippery stop.
Once the e-locker is enabled, it'll auto disengage somewhere in the low 20 mph area BUT if the control is left enabled, it'll automatically re-engage again at around the low 20 mph area.

While the e-locker is ok under certain conditions a good LSD beats it hands down IMO.
The e-locker's big limitations are its not to be used on dry pavement (when making turns) and only works at low speeds.

With a LSD diff. nothing to engage manually, it works on its own all the time at any speed and more importantly allows full time driving on dry pavement.
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