Proposed New F-150 Aluminum Body
09-04-2013, 10:30 AM
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Not to burst anyone's bubbles, but this is FAR from new news.... In fact, starting in the 1997 body style all the way to the current body style, the F150's all have aluminum hoods. This is the future, adopt it or live in the past and rant...either way, I'm on board for an Atlas!
09-04-2013, 10:51 AM
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The OP asked if anyone had any updates on the use of aluminum in future Ford trucks, using recent published rumours of possible massive changes as a basis for discussion. So far the thread has developed well, with some lively debate as to the pros and cons.
Not to burst anyone's bubbles, but this is FAR from new news.... In fact, starting in the 1997 body style all the way to the current body style, the F150's all have aluminum hoods. This is the future, adopt it or live in the past and rant...either way, I'm on board for an Atlas!
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09-04-2013, 01:03 PM
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Not to burst anyone's bubbles, but this is FAR from new news.... In fact, starting in the 1997 body style all the way to the current body style, the F150's all have aluminum hoods. This is the future, adopt it or live in the past and rant...either way, I'm on board for an Atlas!
09-04-2013, 01:23 PM
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In another note:
Originally Posted by AM General
The HMMWV is constructed on a steel frame with boxed frame rails and five cross members constructed from high-grade alloy steel. Once the substructure is assembled, E-coating is applied to provide additional corrosion protection.
The aluminum body reduces weight and provides resistance to corrosion. Aluminum body panels are riveted and bonded together with technologically-advanced adhesives to provide additional strength. The body is designed to flex to accommodate off-road stresses.
The aluminum body reduces weight and provides resistance to corrosion. Aluminum body panels are riveted and bonded together with technologically-advanced adhesives to provide additional strength. The body is designed to flex to accommodate off-road stresses.
Originally Posted by AM General
The M998 A0 series has a curb weight of approximately 5,200 lbs., a payload of 2,500 lbs. (GVW 7,700 lbs.), and a 6.2 liter V-8 diesel engine with a three-speed automatic transmission. The current comparable model, the M1097A2, weighs only 700 lbs. more but can carry almost twice the payload at 4,400 lbs. (GVW 10,300 lbs). It has a 6.5-liter V-8 diesel with a four-speed automatic transmission. The current production Expanded Capacity Vehicle (ECV) model M1113 has a payload of 5,100 lbs. That is over 2 ½ tons, or very nearly the M1113's own weight of 6,400 lbs. The M1113 has a turbocharged 6.5-liter V-8 diesel. The up-armored variant M1114 is produced by AM General with the armor package installed by O'Gara Hess and Eisenhart.
http://www.amgeneral.com/vehicles/hummer/compare.php
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09-04-2013, 01:42 PM
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Structural Aluminum in Vehicles
Remember that the blocks of our newer motors are aluminum... a highly complex and stressed element in the vehicle.
General
http://www.aluminiumleader.com/en/around/transport/cars
Aluminum Structural Crashworthiness and Safety
http://www.aluminum.org/AM/Template....ontentID=25644
Aluminum as Structural Adhesive (not to be confused with Structural Aluminum per se but can be deployed in a Stressed Skin, which can Complement Structural Rigidity)
http://media.gm.com/content/media/us...illac-cts.html
General
http://www.aluminiumleader.com/en/around/transport/cars
Aluminum Structural Crashworthiness and Safety
http://www.aluminum.org/AM/Template....ontentID=25644
Aluminum as Structural Adhesive (not to be confused with Structural Aluminum per se but can be deployed in a Stressed Skin, which can Complement Structural Rigidity)
http://media.gm.com/content/media/us...illac-cts.html
09-04-2013, 01:59 PM
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Not to burst anyone's bubbles, but this is FAR from new news.... In fact, starting in the 1997 body style all the way to the current body style, the F150's all have aluminum hoods. This is the future, adopt it or live in the past and rant...either way, I'm on board for an Atlas!
09-04-2013, 02:23 PM
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Oh yeah.... it even LOOKS like its made from aluminum. A chopped and channeled Transformer in the guise of an F-450, with some Raptor genetics
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09-04-2013, 09:02 PM
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My problem with aluminum in structural components (and I are a mechanical engineer btw) is metal fatigue and to a lesser degree corrosion. Aluminum doesn't flex well...actually it flexes very well....but it fatigues easy. I wouldn't like to see it in any load bearing portion of the frame. I know it's been done...I just don't like it. Picture the Ecoboost growing pains but instead of hesitation it's the frame cracking. Aluminum also does weird stuff corrosion wise when it comes in contact with other metals.
I wouldn't mind seeing aluminum body panels on a steel frame....but frankly I'd rather just see a composite (nice name for plastic) bed like the Sport Tracs had.
I wouldn't mind seeing aluminum body panels on a steel frame....but frankly I'd rather just see a composite (nice name for plastic) bed like the Sport Tracs had.
09-04-2013, 09:36 PM
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Reading this thread made me think of the possibility of an F150 HD. Anybody think about that yet? Would make sense as some people just want a truck for aesthetics or light loads, camping, etc. and some need it for actual work trucks and hauling trailers. Maybe an upgraded frame and suspension parts, and maybe a diff axle set? I don't know, just a thought. Anybody think that this could be even close to a feasible idea?
09-04-2013, 09:50 PM
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Reading this thread made me think of the possibility of an F150 HD. Anybody think about that yet? Would make sense as some people just want a truck for aesthetics or light loads, camping, etc. and some need it for actual work trucks and hauling trailers. Maybe an upgraded frame and suspension parts, and maybe a diff axle set? I don't know, just a thought. Anybody think that this could be even close to a feasible idea?