Topic Sponsor
General F150 Discussion General Ford F150 truck discussions and questions
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Ouch! Aluminum bed VS. landscape stones and...a Toolbox?

Old 06-11-2016, 06:05 PM
  #11  
Junior Member
 
ANTLRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 25
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I had Rhino liner in my '14 Sierra and now have LineX in my '16 F150. Reason I traded the GMC was excessive frame rust, electrical issues (random error messages like trailer tow break), dashboard flashing dark from time to time, loose drivers seat mount, constant sweet smell (antifreeze or hydraulic fluid), transmission shifting...

I liked the GMC overall but figured in a few more years the trade value would go to crap especially with the frame rust. I think the engineering on the Ford is far advanced. I'm sure I will have my minor issues as with all trucks but I think the Ford will be a better long term investment and resale value. Time will only tell.
ANTLRS is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 07:18 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
All Hat No Cattle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lost Wages
Posts: 3,337
Received 1,000 Likes on 667 Posts

Default

Hmmm.

Patient: Doctor, Doctor, every time I quickly raise my arm over my head, I get a sharp pain in my shoulder. What can I do?

Doctor: Raise your arm up slowly.

Owner: Hey, every time I dump 850# of cement blocks into my aluminum bed from 5' in the air, the bed gets beat up.

Fill in your own solution here......

Only a Chevy owner would think to do that, LOL.
All Hat No Cattle is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 09:53 PM
  #13  
Senior Member

 
SteveLord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Iowa
Posts: 5,193
Received 884 Likes on 672 Posts

Default

To be fair, the toolbox scenario Chevy did was a little more realistic. But I ultimately agree with the the bed liner comments.
SteveLord is offline  
Old 06-12-2016, 12:01 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Wannafbody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Pittsburgh Pa
Posts: 2,121
Received 172 Likes on 145 Posts

Default

The tool box is a concern but even that would most likely be a non issue with a bed liner or mat.
Wannafbody is offline  
Old 06-12-2016, 03:47 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Nyron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 233
Received 46 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

I love the Silverado, but is this really the best GM can do? I think the results are valid, but it is far from scientific. Scientific would be the IIHS results that show the F 150 is a safer truck. The Ford engineers have figured out the overlap crash. The ones at GM haven't. If you are in a Silverado and get in this type of accident, you will have a foot or leg injury that will be with you for life.

The bed is easy to figure out and fix (plastic bed liner or bed mat if you are truly going to be dumping things in it). And Ford probably should look into perhaps reinforcing it a bit. However, it really isn't feasible for a Silverado owner to make their truck safer..

Last edited by Nyron; 06-12-2016 at 03:54 PM.
Nyron is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Wannafbody (06-12-2016)
Old 06-12-2016, 06:05 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Sir Aaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 185
Received 26 Likes on 23 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SteveLord
To be fair, the toolbox scenario Chevy did was a little more realistic. But I ultimately agree with the the bed liner comments.
I believe the toolbox scenario was both realistic and very concerning as an F150 owner. That being said, it doesn't change that everybody will be in the same boat in a few years. The problem is that the EPA/CAFE standards are forcing all manufacturers to do all kinds of things to push their fleet MPG up.
Personally, I believe the aluminum holds more advantages than disadvantages overall. I also think a bedliner will reduce the disadvantages in this commercial.

Originally Posted by Nylon
I think the results are valid, but it is far from scientific.
You've got an odd view of science. You don't need scientists or a lab to make it "scientific." You have a theory and you set out to see if it is true or false. I think GM did a fairly good job here. The commercial is very effective.

Originally Posted by Nylon
Scientific would be the IIHS results that show the F 150 is a safer truck. The Ford engineers have figured out the overlap crash.
GM didn't address safety in this video. Most commercials tend to focus on the positive of your own product vs. the negative of somebody else's product. It's not designed to give an entire view of the products.
Sir Aaron is offline  
Old 06-12-2016, 06:51 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
7thSeal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 197
Received 26 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Just a note.

On Tuesday, GM announced a $877-million investment for its truck plant in Flint, MI.

"People familiar with the company's plans say GM's next-generation pickups and SUVs will make use of various materials, including aluminum and lightweight steel, to shed weight and gain fuel efficiency to meet tougher federal standards."
Chevy is going to beat Dodge to lighter body weight to regain lost grounds. Ford just invested way ahead of everybody else knowing that it was coming.

Dodge will follow... they really have no choice.
7thSeal is offline  
Old 06-12-2016, 07:17 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Alcoloco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: California
Posts: 301
Received 43 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Seems like FCA is going to go aluminum at a slower pace and not do a total change all at once. From what I have been reading it will add more aluminum panels (fenders, doors, etc), probably with the next major revamp. The hood has been aluminum since 2009.

Last edited by Alcoloco; 06-12-2016 at 07:36 PM.
Alcoloco is offline  
Old 06-12-2016, 08:46 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Nyron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 233
Received 46 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sir Aaron



You've got an odd view of science. You don't need scientists or a lab to make it "scientific." You have a theory and you set out to see if it is true or false. I think GM did a fairly good job here. The commercial is very effective.



GM didn't address safety in this video. Most commercials tend to focus on the positive of your own product vs. the negative of somebody else's product. It's not designed to give an entire view of the products.


Their "experiment" will not hold up in the scientific method--there are numerous issues (didn't account for variables, no established control, etc.) By comparison, look at the experiments the IIHS does. It is controlled and the data is provided. So the Chevy spokesman, who is employed by Chevrolet, is conducting the experiment. Technically, perhaps science but poor science.

GM's intent is to question the strength of aluminum. Safety is a component of this. I see it as an act of desperation because their 1500 series truck sales are down somewhat.
Nyron is offline  
Old 06-12-2016, 09:52 PM
  #20  
Junior Member
 
donwil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Talking

Originally Posted by Daytoman
I'm not a huge fan of D-Bag commercials like this but...IF this is legit.....then wow.

I have actually had this happen to me before, in a steel bed of course, just a few weeks ago. The first three rows of stones fell off a pallet suspended over my bed and tailgate on a forklift. From just about the same height. I got dents and scratches, totally livable but.....least it was only dents and scratches.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/08/c...0-rocks-video/

My bet, Aluminum F150s won't be around in 5 years.

Aluminum owners, what's been your experience so far?
The internet! Is that thing still around?
donwil is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Ouch! Aluminum bed VS. landscape stones and...a Toolbox?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:04 PM.