Military grade aluminum
12-15-2016, 07:37 AM
#21
Senior Member
All I know is that I've heard body shops locally flat out refuse to work on them. Won't touch them.
And, I saw a guy on the forum post his insurace premiums with his steel truck vs. his new aluminum truck right after trading for it, and his collision premium doubled.
Those two things alone would keep me from buying one.
And, I saw a guy on the forum post his insurace premiums with his steel truck vs. his new aluminum truck right after trading for it, and his collision premium doubled.
Those two things alone would keep me from buying one.
12-15-2016, 07:58 AM
#22
Official HTT Greeter
All I know is that I've heard body shops locally flat out refuse to work on them. Won't touch them.
And, I saw a guy on the forum post his insurace premiums with his steel truck vs. his new aluminum truck right after trading for it, and his collision premium doubled.
Those two things alone would keep me from buying one.
And, I saw a guy on the forum post his insurace premiums with his steel truck vs. his new aluminum truck right after trading for it, and his collision premium doubled.
Those two things alone would keep me from buying one.
And my insurance went up $9/mo. going from a $9k '03 F150 2wd to my $45k '16 4wd. For the exact same coverage. That doesn't seem unreasonable.
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12-15-2016, 09:29 AM
#23
All I know is that I've heard body shops locally flat out refuse to work on them. Won't touch them.
And, I saw a guy on the forum post his insurace premiums with his steel truck vs. his new aluminum truck right after trading for it, and his collision premium doubled.
Those two things alone would keep me from buying one.
And, I saw a guy on the forum post his insurace premiums with his steel truck vs. his new aluminum truck right after trading for it, and his collision premium doubled.
Those two things alone would keep me from buying one.
Or it could've been a shop full of old guys that haven't worked on anything newer than a 1995. And think aluminium is "new technology."
That's the first I've heard of a premium double. I know they're were tons of threads about peoples premiums staying the same, or going up about $100 or so. Did the Person stay with the same company? Or did they go from junk progressive insurance, to a real company that will actually pay to fix your truck correctly?
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WestsydeGuy (12-15-2016)
12-15-2016, 09:54 AM
#24
Senior Member
I'm not talking about dealership Ford body shops. I'm talking about independent shops with guys that have been doing this type of work for decades.
Had one of them say a guy brought a new F-150 in that had been keyed this week. Told the guy they'd sand it down but wouldn't try to paint it or repair it. They basically don't work on aluminum. It's a PITA.
Ford has had rampant problems with paint peeling off their steel trucks over the last several years, so it can't be much worse, can it?
The guy who posted his premium on the forum stayed with the same company, said he hadn't filed any claims, his comprehensive, etc. didn't go up much but his collision almost doubled. It was crazy.
I don't think anybody questions the fact that it costs far more to repair an aluminum truck. That money has to come from somewhere...because we all know that the insurance co. isn't going to eat it.
Had one of them say a guy brought a new F-150 in that had been keyed this week. Told the guy they'd sand it down but wouldn't try to paint it or repair it. They basically don't work on aluminum. It's a PITA.
Ford has had rampant problems with paint peeling off their steel trucks over the last several years, so it can't be much worse, can it?
The guy who posted his premium on the forum stayed with the same company, said he hadn't filed any claims, his comprehensive, etc. didn't go up much but his collision almost doubled. It was crazy.
I don't think anybody questions the fact that it costs far more to repair an aluminum truck. That money has to come from somewhere...because we all know that the insurance co. isn't going to eat it.
12-15-2016, 10:00 AM
#25
I'm not talking about dealership Ford body shops. I'm talking about independent shops with guys that have been doing this type of work for decades.
Had one of them say a guy brought a new F-150 in that had been keyed this week. Told the guy they'd sand it down but wouldn't try to paint it or repair it. They basically don't work on aluminum. It's a PITA.
Ford has had rampant problems with paint peeling off their steel trucks over the last several years, so it can't be much worse, can it?
The guy who posted his premium on the forum stayed with the same company, said he hadn't filed any claims, his comprehensive, etc. didn't go up much but his collision almost doubled. It was crazy.
I don't think anybody questions the fact that it costs far more to repair an aluminum truck. That money has to come from somewhere...because we all know that the insurance co. isn't going to eat it.
Had one of them say a guy brought a new F-150 in that had been keyed this week. Told the guy they'd sand it down but wouldn't try to paint it or repair it. They basically don't work on aluminum. It's a PITA.
Ford has had rampant problems with paint peeling off their steel trucks over the last several years, so it can't be much worse, can it?
The guy who posted his premium on the forum stayed with the same company, said he hadn't filed any claims, his comprehensive, etc. didn't go up much but his collision almost doubled. It was crazy.
I don't think anybody questions the fact that it costs far more to repair an aluminum truck. That money has to come from somewhere...because we all know that the insurance co. isn't going to eat it.
So if my hood gets keyed on my 2010 they won't work on it? Sounds like they're stuck in the past. If they don't realize that aluminum is 99.9999 % the same as painting steel then they're losing a ton of work
Last edited by 21RRF150; 12-15-2016 at 10:09 AM.
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12-15-2016, 10:40 AM
#26
Senior Member
aluminun vs steel
just my thoughts guys: Is aluminum better I don't really know, but marketing is maybe being forced on us !!........
my 2011 S/Crew 6.5 bed weighs in empty @ 3009 kilograms...In Ontario the minimum you can lic. plate a truck for is 3000 kg @ approx. $90.00 (over weight with no load capacity).....So you now have to increase your loaded weight per lic. plates !!....The next weight available is 3500 kg @ a cost of approx. $190.00 (more than double cost)....Personally I think trk. owners complained & Ford in their wisdom of not wanting to lose customers lightened up their trucks to please their market sales !!!
my 2011 S/Crew 6.5 bed weighs in empty @ 3009 kilograms...In Ontario the minimum you can lic. plate a truck for is 3000 kg @ approx. $90.00 (over weight with no load capacity).....So you now have to increase your loaded weight per lic. plates !!....The next weight available is 3500 kg @ a cost of approx. $190.00 (more than double cost)....Personally I think trk. owners complained & Ford in their wisdom of not wanting to lose customers lightened up their trucks to please their market sales !!!
12-15-2016, 11:14 AM
#27
Cowboy of the Skies
Comparison of insurance coverage costs of an old truck to a new one is ridiculous.
If you have an accident in a truck worth say $20,000 their cost to repair or write it off is limited to that.....now you go buy a $50,000 truck the insurance company could be on the hook for that amount....so it only makes sense they raise your insurance coverage costs.
If you have an accident in a truck worth say $20,000 their cost to repair or write it off is limited to that.....now you go buy a $50,000 truck the insurance company could be on the hook for that amount....so it only makes sense they raise your insurance coverage costs.
12-15-2016, 06:03 PM
#28
FX4RoadWarrior
All I know is that I've heard body shops locally flat out refuse to work on them. Won't touch them.
And, I saw a guy on the forum post his insurace premiums with his steel truck vs. his new aluminum truck right after trading for it, and his collision premium doubled.
Those two things alone would keep me from buying one.
And, I saw a guy on the forum post his insurace premiums with his steel truck vs. his new aluminum truck right after trading for it, and his collision premium doubled.
Those two things alone would keep me from buying one.
I had a large dent in my hood and required decal replacement. Lots of shops said no way, found one, ironically a Ford one, and it looks like it did day one again. The decal was more of a problem with most shops hahaha. They didn't want to risk me being upset if it was crooked or had a bubble.
There are certain body guys who work with aluminum.
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12-15-2016, 07:58 PM
#29
Senior Member
12-16-2016, 11:35 AM
#30
Senior Member
Comparison of insurance coverage costs of an old truck to a new one is ridiculous.
If you have an accident in a truck worth say $20,000 their cost to repair or write it off is limited to that.....now you go buy a $50,000 truck the insurance company could be on the hook for that amount....so it only makes sense they raise your insurance coverage costs.
If you have an accident in a truck worth say $20,000 their cost to repair or write it off is limited to that.....now you go buy a $50,000 truck the insurance company could be on the hook for that amount....so it only makes sense they raise your insurance coverage costs.
To go to a 2017 F150 with the same features, My insurance wouldn't change more than $50 a year. I already asked in case I decide on a new one early next year.
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