LETS FINISH THIS -- WHAT'S THE BEST TUNER FOR THE 2.7l?!?
07-25-2018, 10:16 AM
#11
Senior Member
Thread Starter
What octane did you run? Would you see any reason for better or worse octane if one ran 87 vs. 91? I've read in a few places and the crowd seems divided. Some thing 87 tuned is fine and 91 not needed. Thoughts?
07-25-2018, 03:18 PM
#12
My search on this topic was daunting.
With my Mustang it was a very simple choice for a tuner...
Not so...for us Truck owners here...
In 2006 I had great luck with Diablo's Predetor and a GT Mustang...
In fact I was amazed with the manay options available to TWEAK and the performance gains were well documentented in all forums, for the bolt ons one would want to purchase and add!
Not so for a truck...
Drewter52, most of the vendors are wise and they understand truck owners have deep pockets.
It's also understood that us truck owners will spend money to reap small gains in peformance...
So tuner providers look to set the hook first, in hopes that you will come back to the well later and spend more of your hard earned cash!
If you cant tell already...I gave up on my quest for a tuner for now!
Yet I gave it a good try.
In fact, I called several of the top tuning vendors...and spoke to some of their quite savy techs...
Yet I was provided with only crappy responses!
Being a Computer Systems Enginner myself, the responses I recieved were humerous at best!
Most vendor's I spoke with tried very hard to sell me on the capability of their product...and that's understood.
In fact all claimed when asked - that their tuner was the best you can buy for the F150...
No kidding! but I pressed them when I had them on the phone...
Here is just a sample of the questions I asked to SCT, Diablo, Bully Dog and yes I even tried to reach Roush with no success!
Hi I am so & so...
I am looking for an F150 tuner that will provide me with documeted dyno gains in performance for my 2.7 Ecoboost!
"What can you tell me about Ford's claim that states...
Their ECU's are designed to sample & sense all octain levels of fuel this is used in my truck?".
e.g. When I place 87, 91 & 93 Octain in my tank...The ECU will auto adjust without any intervention needed of me...
What's so different about your tuner over the stock tunes that my F150 ECU provides?"
"Note: I should tell you that I am related to a Master Ford Techncian, and he also backs up Fords's claim that their ECU's do in fact run in a selective mode of sampleing and operation; sensing all fuel's used, to include air, altitude and load conditions continuously as your driving down the road...even as atmospheric changes in temps/pressures change and the stock ECU will auto adjust for the correct octain levels used in my truck!"
So there is no need to tell the ECU that I am using 91 Octain Fuel while towing...
"So tell me specificaly what's so unique with your tuner over the stock tune Fords provides me?"
"Some of the tech's that I spoke with were savy and replied with blah, blah, blah,,,but sir we actualy re-map Fords sampleing tables and select a specific setting for the ECU to use"...
My reply was..."You mean you just cut and paste just one sampleing from Fords many ECU maps you've seen in the trucks computer?
Say for a specific Octain level sensed and a load condition recorded and then you copy it to be forced falshed?"
So basicaly, you are just telling my trucks ECU to remian consistent, no sampleing done throughout WOT, without any consideration of the truck foot pedal placement, or the air outside and in and the fuel samples taken at any given moment in time?
Ok so I get it...your tuner just clones what Ford ECU's have captured in the past via previously provided fuel map sample and your tuner just forces one single map for the truck to use while driving it?
It usualy gets quite here...then the guy responds with...Ugh I'm not sure about that!
Ok for my next question then...
"So why can't your tuner just do the same as Ford's stock ECU tuner, e.g. sample and select the right setting for the fuel that I place in my tank and just crank up the bost a some for say 91 Octain"?
"Also why are your making me buy a set flash (a Clone from a Ford ECU Sample) and demand that I select only a high octain gas or an ECO mileage 87 tune?
What if I am at 8500 feet while pulling a load? So if I stall...I would need to stop my truck, shut it off...then upload another canned tune and try again to get over the mountian!
Response was ..."Ugh that's why there's more then one canned tuned option provided in the tuner for you to sample and try!"
My response was...Well the Stock ECU will automaticaly adjsut my truck for all conditions sensed...e.g. load, altitiude and octain levels for the configuration of my specific vehicles gears and tranny...
So asking me to pay you to copy and paste just one of Fords many sample fuel maps and force my ECU to use it is not what I am after here!
I would like a specific tune that I can load and use with a CAI setup that I purchase and install in my truck...e.g. a tune that your company has also DYNO tested with a secific CAI intake, with posted results similar to the motor and transmission setup that I have installed in my truck!
"Sir these are not questions we normaly get and it seems that you will need to visit a local tuner if that is what you are going to do in an atempt to gain perfomrance."
Frustrated...I just hung up!
Gentelmen, what I found out is that most of the above vendors realy can't provide you with answeres to detailed technical questions on their tuners with the 2.7 Ecoboost and they have no setup options avaialble for you to select with a CAI Intake...
Leading me to beleive that any gains in performance for a 2.7 Ecoboost truck will cost money...Lots more then I wnat to spend.
So for now I will just find a flash unit to setup my tire size correctly and wait for someone else to document their build.
SCT said they will provide you with 3 canned tunes and then charge you incrementaly for 2 more tunes, totalling 5 canned tunes at a high cost!
but if you install a CAI, custom tune's are required over and above that.
Same response was provided from Diablo with their i3 tuner, yet their technical support seemed to know a little more about the capabilities of their tuner, but they too said the same thing...and said your fuel consumption would get worse if you didn't custom tune the truck when adding a CAI in a 2.7 setup!
Which after investigating will cost another $700.00 dollars or so, over and above the cost of the tuner needed to purchase, at $395.00, then adding the cost of a CAI setup...
OUCH!
So going further...I did a deep dive into the Roush's website and also found out that an ECU flash is required with them also for any gains in performance.
Yet, they too say you can install a Roush CAI setup in a 2.7 Ecoboost without flashing your ECU.
But again to reap perf gains you will need to pay extra to flash the ECU.
When I called them...I was number 15 in thier Q and never did get to speak to one of their techs.
With that said...it leaves me to beleive that purchasing a tuner with canned tunes is a waste of money for Truck owners.
However, good luck with your search...
and please update us all when you find one that is resonable and doesn't require custom tunes.
K.J.
money
With my Mustang it was a very simple choice for a tuner...
Not so...for us Truck owners here...
In 2006 I had great luck with Diablo's Predetor and a GT Mustang...
In fact I was amazed with the manay options available to TWEAK and the performance gains were well documentented in all forums, for the bolt ons one would want to purchase and add!
Not so for a truck...
Drewter52, most of the vendors are wise and they understand truck owners have deep pockets.
It's also understood that us truck owners will spend money to reap small gains in peformance...
So tuner providers look to set the hook first, in hopes that you will come back to the well later and spend more of your hard earned cash!
If you cant tell already...I gave up on my quest for a tuner for now!
Yet I gave it a good try.
In fact, I called several of the top tuning vendors...and spoke to some of their quite savy techs...
Yet I was provided with only crappy responses!
Being a Computer Systems Enginner myself, the responses I recieved were humerous at best!
Most vendor's I spoke with tried very hard to sell me on the capability of their product...and that's understood.
In fact all claimed when asked - that their tuner was the best you can buy for the F150...
No kidding! but I pressed them when I had them on the phone...
Here is just a sample of the questions I asked to SCT, Diablo, Bully Dog and yes I even tried to reach Roush with no success!
Hi I am so & so...
I am looking for an F150 tuner that will provide me with documeted dyno gains in performance for my 2.7 Ecoboost!
"What can you tell me about Ford's claim that states...
Their ECU's are designed to sample & sense all octain levels of fuel this is used in my truck?".
e.g. When I place 87, 91 & 93 Octain in my tank...The ECU will auto adjust without any intervention needed of me...
What's so different about your tuner over the stock tunes that my F150 ECU provides?"
"Note: I should tell you that I am related to a Master Ford Techncian, and he also backs up Fords's claim that their ECU's do in fact run in a selective mode of sampleing and operation; sensing all fuel's used, to include air, altitude and load conditions continuously as your driving down the road...even as atmospheric changes in temps/pressures change and the stock ECU will auto adjust for the correct octain levels used in my truck!"
So there is no need to tell the ECU that I am using 91 Octain Fuel while towing...
"So tell me specificaly what's so unique with your tuner over the stock tune Fords provides me?"
"Some of the tech's that I spoke with were savy and replied with blah, blah, blah,,,but sir we actualy re-map Fords sampleing tables and select a specific setting for the ECU to use"...
My reply was..."You mean you just cut and paste just one sampleing from Fords many ECU maps you've seen in the trucks computer?
Say for a specific Octain level sensed and a load condition recorded and then you copy it to be forced falshed?"
So basicaly, you are just telling my trucks ECU to remian consistent, no sampleing done throughout WOT, without any consideration of the truck foot pedal placement, or the air outside and in and the fuel samples taken at any given moment in time?
Ok so I get it...your tuner just clones what Ford ECU's have captured in the past via previously provided fuel map sample and your tuner just forces one single map for the truck to use while driving it?
It usualy gets quite here...then the guy responds with...Ugh I'm not sure about that!
Ok for my next question then...
"So why can't your tuner just do the same as Ford's stock ECU tuner, e.g. sample and select the right setting for the fuel that I place in my tank and just crank up the bost a some for say 91 Octain"?
"Also why are your making me buy a set flash (a Clone from a Ford ECU Sample) and demand that I select only a high octain gas or an ECO mileage 87 tune?
What if I am at 8500 feet while pulling a load? So if I stall...I would need to stop my truck, shut it off...then upload another canned tune and try again to get over the mountian!
Response was ..."Ugh that's why there's more then one canned tuned option provided in the tuner for you to sample and try!"
My response was...Well the Stock ECU will automaticaly adjsut my truck for all conditions sensed...e.g. load, altitiude and octain levels for the configuration of my specific vehicles gears and tranny...
So asking me to pay you to copy and paste just one of Fords many sample fuel maps and force my ECU to use it is not what I am after here!
I would like a specific tune that I can load and use with a CAI setup that I purchase and install in my truck...e.g. a tune that your company has also DYNO tested with a secific CAI intake, with posted results similar to the motor and transmission setup that I have installed in my truck!
"Sir these are not questions we normaly get and it seems that you will need to visit a local tuner if that is what you are going to do in an atempt to gain perfomrance."
Frustrated...I just hung up!
Gentelmen, what I found out is that most of the above vendors realy can't provide you with answeres to detailed technical questions on their tuners with the 2.7 Ecoboost and they have no setup options avaialble for you to select with a CAI Intake...
Leading me to beleive that any gains in performance for a 2.7 Ecoboost truck will cost money...Lots more then I wnat to spend.
So for now I will just find a flash unit to setup my tire size correctly and wait for someone else to document their build.
SCT said they will provide you with 3 canned tunes and then charge you incrementaly for 2 more tunes, totalling 5 canned tunes at a high cost!
but if you install a CAI, custom tune's are required over and above that.
Same response was provided from Diablo with their i3 tuner, yet their technical support seemed to know a little more about the capabilities of their tuner, but they too said the same thing...and said your fuel consumption would get worse if you didn't custom tune the truck when adding a CAI in a 2.7 setup!
Which after investigating will cost another $700.00 dollars or so, over and above the cost of the tuner needed to purchase, at $395.00, then adding the cost of a CAI setup...
OUCH!
So going further...I did a deep dive into the Roush's website and also found out that an ECU flash is required with them also for any gains in performance.
Yet, they too say you can install a Roush CAI setup in a 2.7 Ecoboost without flashing your ECU.
But again to reap perf gains you will need to pay extra to flash the ECU.
When I called them...I was number 15 in thier Q and never did get to speak to one of their techs.
With that said...it leaves me to beleive that purchasing a tuner with canned tunes is a waste of money for Truck owners.
However, good luck with your search...
and please update us all when you find one that is resonable and doesn't require custom tunes.
K.J.
money
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Drewter52 (07-25-2018)
07-25-2018, 08:10 PM
#13
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My search on this topic was daunting.
With my Mustang it was a very simple choice for a tuner...
Not so...for us Truck owners here...
In 2006 I had great luck with Diablo's Predetor and a GT Mustang...
In fact I was amazed with the manay options available to TWEAK and the performance gains were well documentented in all forums, for the bolt ons one would want to purchase and add!
Not so for a truck...
Drewter52, most of the vendors are wise and they understand truck owners have deep pockets.
It's also understood that us truck owners will spend money to reap small gains in peformance...
So tuner providers look to set the hook first, in hopes that you will come back to the well later and spend more of your hard earned cash!
If you cant tell already...I gave up on my quest for a tuner for now!
Yet I gave it a good try.
In fact, I called several of the top tuning vendors...and spoke to some of their quite savy techs...
Yet I was provided with only crappy responses!
Being a Computer Systems Enginner myself, the responses I recieved were humerous at best!
Most vendor's I spoke with tried very hard to sell me on the capability of their product...and that's understood.
In fact all claimed when asked - that their tuner was the best you can buy for the F150...
No kidding! but I pressed them when I had them on the phone...
Here is just a sample of the questions I asked to SCT, Diablo, Bully Dog and yes I even tried to reach Roush with no success!
Hi I am so & so...
I am looking for an F150 tuner that will provide me with documeted dyno gains in performance for my 2.7 Ecoboost!
"What can you tell me about Ford's claim that states...
Their ECU's are designed to sample & sense all octain levels of fuel this is used in my truck?".
e.g. When I place 87, 91 & 93 Octain in my tank...The ECU will auto adjust without any intervention needed of me...
What's so different about your tuner over the stock tunes that my F150 ECU provides?"
"Note: I should tell you that I am related to a Master Ford Techncian, and he also backs up Fords's claim that their ECU's do in fact run in a selective mode of sampleing and operation; sensing all fuel's used, to include air, altitude and load conditions continuously as your driving down the road...even as atmospheric changes in temps/pressures change and the stock ECU will auto adjust for the correct octain levels used in my truck!"
So there is no need to tell the ECU that I am using 91 Octain Fuel while towing...
"So tell me specificaly what's so unique with your tuner over the stock tune Fords provides me?"
"Some of the tech's that I spoke with were savy and replied with blah, blah, blah,,,but sir we actualy re-map Fords sampleing tables and select a specific setting for the ECU to use"...
My reply was..."You mean you just cut and paste just one sampleing from Fords many ECU maps you've seen in the trucks computer?
Say for a specific Octain level sensed and a load condition recorded and then you copy it to be forced falshed?"
So basicaly, you are just telling my trucks ECU to remian consistent, no sampleing done throughout WOT, without any consideration of the truck foot pedal placement, or the air outside and in and the fuel samples taken at any given moment in time?
Ok so I get it...your tuner just clones what Ford ECU's have captured in the past via previously provided fuel map sample and your tuner just forces one single map for the truck to use while driving it?
It usualy gets quite here...then the guy responds with...Ugh I'm not sure about that!
Ok for my next question then...
"So why can't your tuner just do the same as Ford's stock ECU tuner, e.g. sample and select the right setting for the fuel that I place in my tank and just crank up the bost a some for say 91 Octain"?
"Also why are your making me buy a set flash (a Clone from a Ford ECU Sample) and demand that I select only a high octain gas or an ECO mileage 87 tune?
What if I am at 8500 feet while pulling a load? So if I stall...I would need to stop my truck, shut it off...then upload another canned tune and try again to get over the mountian!
Response was ..."Ugh that's why there's more then one canned tuned option provided in the tuner for you to sample and try!"
My response was...Well the Stock ECU will automaticaly adjsut my truck for all conditions sensed...e.g. load, altitiude and octain levels for the configuration of my specific vehicles gears and tranny...
So asking me to pay you to copy and paste just one of Fords many sample fuel maps and force my ECU to use it is not what I am after here!
I would like a specific tune that I can load and use with a CAI setup that I purchase and install in my truck...e.g. a tune that your company has also DYNO tested with a secific CAI intake, with posted results similar to the motor and transmission setup that I have installed in my truck!
"Sir these are not questions we normaly get and it seems that you will need to visit a local tuner if that is what you are going to do in an atempt to gain perfomrance."
Frustrated...I just hung up!
Gentelmen, what I found out is that most of the above vendors realy can't provide you with answeres to detailed technical questions on their tuners with the 2.7 Ecoboost and they have no setup options avaialble for you to select with a CAI Intake...
Leading me to beleive that any gains in performance for a 2.7 Ecoboost truck will cost money...Lots more then I wnat to spend.
So for now I will just find a flash unit to setup my tire size correctly and wait for someone else to document their build.
SCT said they will provide you with 3 canned tunes and then charge you incrementaly for 2 more tunes, totalling 5 canned tunes at a high cost!
but if you install a CAI, custom tune's are required over and above that.
Same response was provided from Diablo with their i3 tuner, yet their technical support seemed to know a little more about the capabilities of their tuner, but they too said the same thing...and said your fuel consumption would get worse if you didn't custom tune the truck when adding a CAI in a 2.7 setup!
Which after investigating will cost another $700.00 dollars or so, over and above the cost of the tuner needed to purchase, at $395.00, then adding the cost of a CAI setup...
OUCH!
So going further...I did a deep dive into the Roush's website and also found out that an ECU flash is required with them also for any gains in performance.
Yet, they too say you can install a Roush CAI setup in a 2.7 Ecoboost without flashing your ECU.
But again to reap perf gains you will need to pay extra to flash the ECU.
When I called them...I was number 15 in thier Q and never did get to speak to one of their techs.
With that said...it leaves me to beleive that purchasing a tuner with canned tunes is a waste of money for Truck owners.
However, good luck with your search...
and please update us all when you find one that is resonable and doesn't require custom tunes.
K.J.
money
With my Mustang it was a very simple choice for a tuner...
Not so...for us Truck owners here...
In 2006 I had great luck with Diablo's Predetor and a GT Mustang...
In fact I was amazed with the manay options available to TWEAK and the performance gains were well documentented in all forums, for the bolt ons one would want to purchase and add!
Not so for a truck...
Drewter52, most of the vendors are wise and they understand truck owners have deep pockets.
It's also understood that us truck owners will spend money to reap small gains in peformance...
So tuner providers look to set the hook first, in hopes that you will come back to the well later and spend more of your hard earned cash!
If you cant tell already...I gave up on my quest for a tuner for now!
Yet I gave it a good try.
In fact, I called several of the top tuning vendors...and spoke to some of their quite savy techs...
Yet I was provided with only crappy responses!
Being a Computer Systems Enginner myself, the responses I recieved were humerous at best!
Most vendor's I spoke with tried very hard to sell me on the capability of their product...and that's understood.
In fact all claimed when asked - that their tuner was the best you can buy for the F150...
No kidding! but I pressed them when I had them on the phone...
Here is just a sample of the questions I asked to SCT, Diablo, Bully Dog and yes I even tried to reach Roush with no success!
Hi I am so & so...
I am looking for an F150 tuner that will provide me with documeted dyno gains in performance for my 2.7 Ecoboost!
"What can you tell me about Ford's claim that states...
Their ECU's are designed to sample & sense all octain levels of fuel this is used in my truck?".
e.g. When I place 87, 91 & 93 Octain in my tank...The ECU will auto adjust without any intervention needed of me...
What's so different about your tuner over the stock tunes that my F150 ECU provides?"
"Note: I should tell you that I am related to a Master Ford Techncian, and he also backs up Fords's claim that their ECU's do in fact run in a selective mode of sampleing and operation; sensing all fuel's used, to include air, altitude and load conditions continuously as your driving down the road...even as atmospheric changes in temps/pressures change and the stock ECU will auto adjust for the correct octain levels used in my truck!"
So there is no need to tell the ECU that I am using 91 Octain Fuel while towing...
"So tell me specificaly what's so unique with your tuner over the stock tune Fords provides me?"
"Some of the tech's that I spoke with were savy and replied with blah, blah, blah,,,but sir we actualy re-map Fords sampleing tables and select a specific setting for the ECU to use"...
My reply was..."You mean you just cut and paste just one sampleing from Fords many ECU maps you've seen in the trucks computer?
Say for a specific Octain level sensed and a load condition recorded and then you copy it to be forced falshed?"
So basicaly, you are just telling my trucks ECU to remian consistent, no sampleing done throughout WOT, without any consideration of the truck foot pedal placement, or the air outside and in and the fuel samples taken at any given moment in time?
Ok so I get it...your tuner just clones what Ford ECU's have captured in the past via previously provided fuel map sample and your tuner just forces one single map for the truck to use while driving it?
It usualy gets quite here...then the guy responds with...Ugh I'm not sure about that!
Ok for my next question then...
"So why can't your tuner just do the same as Ford's stock ECU tuner, e.g. sample and select the right setting for the fuel that I place in my tank and just crank up the bost a some for say 91 Octain"?
"Also why are your making me buy a set flash (a Clone from a Ford ECU Sample) and demand that I select only a high octain gas or an ECO mileage 87 tune?
What if I am at 8500 feet while pulling a load? So if I stall...I would need to stop my truck, shut it off...then upload another canned tune and try again to get over the mountian!
Response was ..."Ugh that's why there's more then one canned tuned option provided in the tuner for you to sample and try!"
My response was...Well the Stock ECU will automaticaly adjsut my truck for all conditions sensed...e.g. load, altitiude and octain levels for the configuration of my specific vehicles gears and tranny...
So asking me to pay you to copy and paste just one of Fords many sample fuel maps and force my ECU to use it is not what I am after here!
I would like a specific tune that I can load and use with a CAI setup that I purchase and install in my truck...e.g. a tune that your company has also DYNO tested with a secific CAI intake, with posted results similar to the motor and transmission setup that I have installed in my truck!
"Sir these are not questions we normaly get and it seems that you will need to visit a local tuner if that is what you are going to do in an atempt to gain perfomrance."
Frustrated...I just hung up!
Gentelmen, what I found out is that most of the above vendors realy can't provide you with answeres to detailed technical questions on their tuners with the 2.7 Ecoboost and they have no setup options avaialble for you to select with a CAI Intake...
Leading me to beleive that any gains in performance for a 2.7 Ecoboost truck will cost money...Lots more then I wnat to spend.
So for now I will just find a flash unit to setup my tire size correctly and wait for someone else to document their build.
SCT said they will provide you with 3 canned tunes and then charge you incrementaly for 2 more tunes, totalling 5 canned tunes at a high cost!
but if you install a CAI, custom tune's are required over and above that.
Same response was provided from Diablo with their i3 tuner, yet their technical support seemed to know a little more about the capabilities of their tuner, but they too said the same thing...and said your fuel consumption would get worse if you didn't custom tune the truck when adding a CAI in a 2.7 setup!
Which after investigating will cost another $700.00 dollars or so, over and above the cost of the tuner needed to purchase, at $395.00, then adding the cost of a CAI setup...
OUCH!
So going further...I did a deep dive into the Roush's website and also found out that an ECU flash is required with them also for any gains in performance.
Yet, they too say you can install a Roush CAI setup in a 2.7 Ecoboost without flashing your ECU.
But again to reap perf gains you will need to pay extra to flash the ECU.
When I called them...I was number 15 in thier Q and never did get to speak to one of their techs.
With that said...it leaves me to beleive that purchasing a tuner with canned tunes is a waste of money for Truck owners.
However, good luck with your search...
and please update us all when you find one that is resonable and doesn't require custom tunes.
K.J.
money
Plain and simple, I want to find a tuner that is going to give me the best unleashed HP, torque, and MPG (if there is a good balance between these 3) where I only have to install 1 time and not really worry about it. As well as one that will do a speedometer calibration which I am fairly confident every one does out there...
Not going to lie, I am pretty naive to a lot of what you were talking about up there. To the point it makes me ask myself do I really want to find a tuner?
Again, really wanting to find something that is simple, reliable and not f*** up my truck, and unleash a whole lot of power left in the engine.
I'd hope to think about 6/10 of us are after the same thing...
Thanks again a lot for the insight. And I will be sure to post what option I choose, and more importantly, if I thought it was worth it.
Currently leaning toward either a 5* w/ n-Gauge or a Livernois.
07-25-2018, 08:25 PM
#14
Wow lotta talk up there about crap tuners. 1st it's not so much the tuner but the tune one runs. I'm no expert and never put mine on a Dyno. What I do know is the stock sport mode sucked. With the performance tune, my lil 2.7 with big old tires would light up if I wanted to. My butt dyno told me it was worth the coin. For the 2 mpg gain for economy, sure, could have bought 10 full tanks of gas for the coin spent on tuner but had heck of a lot more fun wasting gas with the tunes.
07-26-2018, 03:46 PM
#15
Drewter52,
Being a Junior memeber, I hope to never reach a 20,000 number post milestone, that Mudder's obtained!
No offense Mudder...I am glad to have and read your posts.
But to let you all know...I did purchase an i3 tuner from Diablo this week...
Based only on my past experience with a P3 and the personal satisfaction I had with their technical support enginners.
Yes, I know...they were accuried in 2014 by the Holley Performance Group,
and speculation has it that this may lead to future support issues?
But there are no worries here with me...
As the prior experience I had with DiabloSport was excellent and lives on today in a Legend Lime Forum.
That documents a story of success with solid data to back it up.
That said...the company has awesome support and thier tuner's were the bomb back in 2007,
At a time when I dropped $399.00 dollars of hard earned cash and installed one in a brand new Mustang!
They have developed a plug-in software interface that's simple to follow,
And I had no issues when flashing the stock tune back into my cars ECU for those service tips back to the dealership.
(Hint to users those users out there: Always save an extra copy of your stock tune elesewhere...say on a laptop or keyfob, should an issues arise.!)
BTW...That never happened with my Diablo tuner, which tends to say a great deal about the products they've designed and developed over time.
But who knows now if the experience will be the same a second time around...?
Only time will tell..
But for now I'm taking a chance with them at a cost of $200.00 bucks out of pocket!
(As they gave me a $100.00 dollar trade-in rebate with a Militray discount to boot...not bad hugh?)
Here's a few comments (circa 2007) of what a Diablo tuners can provide!
Life lesson and excitment for sure and the fun of doing something you enjoy...
As I was sold when I mated a Preditor 3 tuner with an K & N FPIK in my brand new GT Mustang.
Yes the car launched "like a rocket" when tuned and it was fun to dirve, especialy with the speedo top end shut off!
But all this ended when a Meth Head put a stop to my fun...
You see, I was leaving the Air Base one sunny afternoon in July (of 2010)...
When suddenly this X$@#H appears from my left, as she runs a red light an plows right into me!
The impact pushes my car 110 feet across a divided hwy and into a power ploe...
Wedged in a mess of shattered glass, wrenched metal and the smell of fuel spilled around me...
I awoke to find a first responder gently placeing a collar around my neck...
After what seemed an eternity...he coaxed me to calmly crawl out "If I could" over the dash an onto the hood!
Once out and now alert...I walked assisted by a Navy Captian to the waiting ambulence...
As we walked together...In a southern drawl...he said I stopped that X$T&h for you!
She attempted to back up and drive off with her broken axle in that POS Dodge!
But I got around her and stopped my truck...blocking the enterance to the freeway.
The cop has her in cuffs...so rest assured Sir...
Your lucky and gonna be OK, but that Mustang of yours...
Sorry to say that it's toast!
Hey would you do me a favor please...
Pop my trunk and grab the three gift bags of Harley appreal OK...
It's my wifes Birthday presen...
He said you got it Sir, and as he placed the gift bags in the ambulence...he voiced this...
BTW, your wifes gonna look real pretty in that Orange Halter Top!
Suprisingly, I only suffered a bruised rib and mild concushion!
And this put an end to my mid 40's obsession with fast cars and speed!
You see before this happend I spent hours in a sports car paying visits to numerous Missel Fields,
hat are spread throughout Nebraska and Wyoming!
Where I was able to log and capture, then send 87 octain (30 MPG) fills back to the DiabloSport cloud for further analysis.
They loved it when I checked in weekely and were happy to see my build progree as I added more bolt ons.
So now flash forward 10 years...
I'm back to spending nights after work in the garage!
I have a Diablo i3 enroute and a sweet Ecobosst 2.7 twin turbo to tweek...
So what more can I say...then stay tuned and let's see what this baby can realy do!
(If History repeats itself)
What you can expect from a Diablo tuner purchase...
They will provide you with great technical support and you will have the ability to run some proven canned tunes (for both Economy and Performance).
Not to mention, the ability for me to set my tire size correctly, to match the 35" Toyo's I have installed on my truck!.
So a big shout goes out to Drewter52.
Thank You for stariting this thread!
As he's gota be a 2.7 Boostie...
Just like me...
Respectfully,
KJ.
Being a Junior memeber, I hope to never reach a 20,000 number post milestone, that Mudder's obtained!
No offense Mudder...I am glad to have and read your posts.
But to let you all know...I did purchase an i3 tuner from Diablo this week...
Based only on my past experience with a P3 and the personal satisfaction I had with their technical support enginners.
Yes, I know...they were accuried in 2014 by the Holley Performance Group,
and speculation has it that this may lead to future support issues?
But there are no worries here with me...
As the prior experience I had with DiabloSport was excellent and lives on today in a Legend Lime Forum.
That documents a story of success with solid data to back it up.
That said...the company has awesome support and thier tuner's were the bomb back in 2007,
At a time when I dropped $399.00 dollars of hard earned cash and installed one in a brand new Mustang!
They have developed a plug-in software interface that's simple to follow,
And I had no issues when flashing the stock tune back into my cars ECU for those service tips back to the dealership.
(Hint to users those users out there: Always save an extra copy of your stock tune elesewhere...say on a laptop or keyfob, should an issues arise.!)
BTW...That never happened with my Diablo tuner, which tends to say a great deal about the products they've designed and developed over time.
But who knows now if the experience will be the same a second time around...?
Only time will tell..
But for now I'm taking a chance with them at a cost of $200.00 bucks out of pocket!
(As they gave me a $100.00 dollar trade-in rebate with a Militray discount to boot...not bad hugh?)
Here's a few comments (circa 2007) of what a Diablo tuners can provide!
Life lesson and excitment for sure and the fun of doing something you enjoy...
As I was sold when I mated a Preditor 3 tuner with an K & N FPIK in my brand new GT Mustang.
Yes the car launched "like a rocket" when tuned and it was fun to dirve, especialy with the speedo top end shut off!
But all this ended when a Meth Head put a stop to my fun...
You see, I was leaving the Air Base one sunny afternoon in July (of 2010)...
When suddenly this X$@#H appears from my left, as she runs a red light an plows right into me!
The impact pushes my car 110 feet across a divided hwy and into a power ploe...
Wedged in a mess of shattered glass, wrenched metal and the smell of fuel spilled around me...
I awoke to find a first responder gently placeing a collar around my neck...
After what seemed an eternity...he coaxed me to calmly crawl out "If I could" over the dash an onto the hood!
Once out and now alert...I walked assisted by a Navy Captian to the waiting ambulence...
As we walked together...In a southern drawl...he said I stopped that X$T&h for you!
She attempted to back up and drive off with her broken axle in that POS Dodge!
But I got around her and stopped my truck...blocking the enterance to the freeway.
The cop has her in cuffs...so rest assured Sir...
Your lucky and gonna be OK, but that Mustang of yours...
Sorry to say that it's toast!
Hey would you do me a favor please...
Pop my trunk and grab the three gift bags of Harley appreal OK...
It's my wifes Birthday presen...
He said you got it Sir, and as he placed the gift bags in the ambulence...he voiced this...
BTW, your wifes gonna look real pretty in that Orange Halter Top!
Suprisingly, I only suffered a bruised rib and mild concushion!
And this put an end to my mid 40's obsession with fast cars and speed!
You see before this happend I spent hours in a sports car paying visits to numerous Missel Fields,
hat are spread throughout Nebraska and Wyoming!
Where I was able to log and capture, then send 87 octain (30 MPG) fills back to the DiabloSport cloud for further analysis.
They loved it when I checked in weekely and were happy to see my build progree as I added more bolt ons.
So now flash forward 10 years...
I'm back to spending nights after work in the garage!
I have a Diablo i3 enroute and a sweet Ecobosst 2.7 twin turbo to tweek...
So what more can I say...then stay tuned and let's see what this baby can realy do!
(If History repeats itself)
What you can expect from a Diablo tuner purchase...
They will provide you with great technical support and you will have the ability to run some proven canned tunes (for both Economy and Performance).
Not to mention, the ability for me to set my tire size correctly, to match the 35" Toyo's I have installed on my truck!.
So a big shout goes out to Drewter52.
Thank You for stariting this thread!
As he's gota be a 2.7 Boostie...
Just like me...
Respectfully,
KJ.
07-27-2018, 12:11 AM
#17
Senior Member
Hands down 5 Star tuning and ngauge device.
I've ran most of the reputable tuning companies tunes in the past 6 years on two different trucks and I always go back to my 5 Star tunes in the end.
Shifting, power and just all around drivability is why I like 5 star the best.
Dyno and track numbers don't mean **** to me, you can have the fastest tune there is and it will suck *** as a daily driver.
My little 2017 2.7 crew cab scoots with my 5 Star
I've ran most of the reputable tuning companies tunes in the past 6 years on two different trucks and I always go back to my 5 Star tunes in the end.
Shifting, power and just all around drivability is why I like 5 star the best.
Dyno and track numbers don't mean **** to me, you can have the fastest tune there is and it will suck *** as a daily driver.
My little 2017 2.7 crew cab scoots with my 5 Star
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08-06-2018, 10:59 AM
#18
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Hands down 5 Star tuning and ngauge device.
I've ran most of the reputable tuning companies tunes in the past 6 years on two different trucks and I always go back to my 5 Star tunes in the end.
Shifting, power and just all around drivability is why I like 5 star the best.
Dyno and track numbers don't mean **** to me, you can have the fastest tune there is and it will suck *** as a daily driver.
My little 2017 2.7 crew cab scoots with my 5 Star
http://youtu.be/r9_muNVnUbk
I've ran most of the reputable tuning companies tunes in the past 6 years on two different trucks and I always go back to my 5 Star tunes in the end.
Shifting, power and just all around drivability is why I like 5 star the best.
Dyno and track numbers don't mean **** to me, you can have the fastest tune there is and it will suck *** as a daily driver.
My little 2017 2.7 crew cab scoots with my 5 Star
http://youtu.be/r9_muNVnUbk
Since this post I went and bought a BDX Bullydog tuner, and come to find out, for some reason, they will not have a 2018 F150 2.7L tune for about another month...
Is it possible to get a cloud tune from 5* that i could download to this???
08-07-2018, 12:49 AM
#20
Senior Member
I know it's a day late and a buck short but I would have went with the ngauge. I have two friends that had to exchange their bdx for an Ngauge due to multiple issues.
I know other people with the bdx that have been fine though.
Last edited by Sirikenewtron; 08-07-2018 at 12:52 AM.