How about 37 mpg? The Achates engine at the Detroit Auto Show
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How about 37 mpg? The Achates engine at the Detroit Auto Show
Since it's in an F-150, I thought it might be of interest here...
https://www.trucks.com/2018/01/15/de...pickup-engine/
https://www.trucks.com/2018/01/15/de...pickup-engine/
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37MPG? Good luck getting that, even with a car... I am sceptic.
The Ram Ecodiesel engine is pretty close to the EPA numbers however. Perhaps this one will be as well! Looking forward to see/hear the real numbers!
The Ram Ecodiesel engine is pretty close to the EPA numbers however. Perhaps this one will be as well! Looking forward to see/hear the real numbers!
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I wonder if the coming CAFE standards are the reason that everybody is coming out with a 7/8 size pickup truck. The new Ranger, for example, is likely to squeeze a couple more MPG out compared to the F-150.
I'm skeptical on the new design too, but I came across the article and thought it interesting if nothing else.
I'm skeptical on the new design too, but I came across the article and thought it interesting if nothing else.
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People with the VW TDI were getting 50 on the highway, until dot-gov decided that VW was cheating on the emissions test. Too bad too, because I like the idea of 50 mpg in a reasonably-sized smallish car with at least a little refinement.
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37 MPG with a car is nothing new, my 1986 escort got better than that.
THe engine is technically very interesting, compression ignition gasoline engines aren't new, reliability out of one would be. I'd like to see an article actually explaining the engine, as some of the claims are rather dubious....no heads or valves remind me of an old sliding sleeve engine, which while simple, was almost as efficient as burning dollar bills.
THe engine is technically very interesting, compression ignition gasoline engines aren't new, reliability out of one would be. I'd like to see an article actually explaining the engine, as some of the claims are rather dubious....no heads or valves remind me of an old sliding sleeve engine, which while simple, was almost as efficient as burning dollar bills.
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Diesel is not the future at all, and I doubt Ford wants to invest a lot of $ in that, but I would be glad to see a ''real'' 37MPG diesel engine on a full-size truck.
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I would probably disagree with the "polluting like hell" assessment. What really happened was that despite the government's and VW's best efforts, the UAW was not given carte blanc control over the new VW plant here in Chattanooga. As a result, the DC thugs clamped down on VW.
The restrictions placed on the Diesel engine in the US are more political in nature than scientific.
The restrictions placed on the Diesel engine in the US are more political in nature than scientific.
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I would probably disagree with the "polluting like hell" assessment. What really happened was that despite the government's and VW's best efforts, the UAW was not given carte blanc control over the new VW plant here in Chattanooga. As a result, the DC thugs clamped down on VW.
The restrictions placed on the Diesel engine in the US are more political in nature than scientific.
The restrictions placed on the Diesel engine in the US are more political in nature than scientific.
Sorry, the V-dub scandal was tipped off to the EPA by researchers in WV, not the UAW and D.C.
https://blog.caranddriver.com/how-vo...ons-standards/
The investigation started before the vote in chattanooga was even scheduled.
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They clamped down VW?
VW are the ones who put devices in their diesel vehicles, a decade ado, that could detect when they were being tested, changing the performance/results. Conclusion are that these engines polluted 40x to 50x times more than the maximum allowed by the regulations. You don't call this an environmental disaster?
Anyways, let's not start that discussion again. Screw VW, I will never buy a vehicle from them in my life.
VW are the ones who put devices in their diesel vehicles, a decade ado, that could detect when they were being tested, changing the performance/results. Conclusion are that these engines polluted 40x to 50x times more than the maximum allowed by the regulations. You don't call this an environmental disaster?
Anyways, let's not start that discussion again. Screw VW, I will never buy a vehicle from them in my life.
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