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Old 06-06-2017, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Not scheduled by month, and 0% is ALWAYS a bad idea as you lose rebates. Take regular rate and full rebates and refi the same week. Posted often.
it depends on the rate you can get privately. If I can get 0 and the rebates are only $2500 but my interest paid over the same loan that I'd refinance is $3000...I'm saving 500 taking the 0% and passing on the rebates.
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Originally Posted by tjm623
it depends on the rate you can get privately. If I can get 0 and the rebates are only $2500 but my interest paid over the same loan that I'd refinance is $3000...I'm saving 500 taking the 0% and passing on the rebates.
Sure. But unless you have lousy credit, the rate you can get privately will beat it.

Right now:

PenFed - 1.49% for 36 months, 1.99% for 48 months, 2.49% for 60 months.

Assume a $50,000 4 year loan at 1.99%. Interest over that loan would be $2,058.

Of course, many people trade in a vehicle or put a downpayment as they cannot afford a monthly payment over $1,000.

Assume a $30,000 5 year loan at 2.49%. Interest is $1,937.

Again, the 0% almost never pays off.
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I agree that very rarely does it pay off, I guess I was trying to explain that there are situations where it could. It's best to at least run the numbers as you just showed with incentives or with rebate.

i think they've even run an incentive for 0% with rebates once last year? I can't remember as we bought 3 cars last year(1 not by choice)
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Exactly what I did. Could have got the 0% for 5 years through ford credit with 5500 rebate or almost 15,000 in rebates and took the ford 4.99%. I took the big rebate and refinanced at the credit union my wife works at and used her discount to get a 1.9% rate. Came out like a rose for 5 years.
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I watched both Ford and GM incentives almost all of last year. Every period changed some, but the deals I saw at the end of the year weren’t necessarily better than what I saw earlier in the year. IIRC late fall seemed to be the worst time for incentives from both makes, but I don’t know if that holds true from year to year. It’s probably a function of the corporate offices trying to get sales up than a time of year thing.

The biggest differences I noticed were dealerships themselves. Regardless of the rebates at any given time, high volume dealerships were advertising prices lower than smaller dealerships were selling for after negotiations.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
No, it is not true. They increase incentives to move inventory where they need to move inventory. And, at the same time, inventory goes down and your choices shrink.

I bought end of December 2013 and had 2 or 3 within 200 miles that had 302A, tailgate step, elocker, and bucket seats.

Do yourself a favor, as a "I've never bought new" buyer.

1) Read on the forum about X-Plan and join an organization NOW to qualify. https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/eaa-membe...nition-program

2) Sign up for Ford's mailing list to get Private Cash.

I bought through Z plan, but I saw the X plan price. I was able to negotiate a better than X plan price just by emailing a couple dealers. Not sure X plan is worth it??
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I bought through Z plan, but I saw the X plan price. I was able to negotiate a better than X plan price just by emailing a couple dealers. Not sure X plan is worth it??
OP has never before bought a new vehicle. X-Plan gives you a fair price, barely over invoice minus rebates, and a max of $100 paperwork fee. Many who get "better" deals end up paying $499 for paperwork, getting screwed on a trade, paying for "packages", etc.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
OP has never before bought a new vehicle. X-Plan gives you a fair price, barely over invoice minus rebates, and a max of $100 paperwork fee. Many who get "better" deals end up paying $499 for paperwork, getting screwed on a trade, paying for "packages", etc.
Good info! I didn't know the documentation fee was reduced, that puts the price I negotiated and the X plan price much closer together.

Thanks for the education!
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Z-plan is $75 max doc fee.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Z-plan is $75 max doc fee.
I know that one!



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