Finally! The answer to 5.0 vs EB debate
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Sure... but while I think the Ecoboost a great engine, you may be quoting my reply out of context.
What's not to like about a twin-turbo V6? They're unbelievable. They're a 1980's motorhead wet dream! with the torque curve of a big rig diesel. I get it.
I was only replying to a durability question. That's all. The Coyote is almost indestructible. It is without a doubt one of Ford's masterpiece engines.
While with a 5.0 Coyote I might "have a dog in this fight" of which engine is better, I don't really care anymore. All this back and forth is bullsh!t. Look at the hardware in these things. They're all good engines. What's more, these are amazing trucks.
What's not to like about a twin-turbo V6? They're unbelievable. They're a 1980's motorhead wet dream! with the torque curve of a big rig diesel. I get it.
I was only replying to a durability question. That's all. The Coyote is almost indestructible. It is without a doubt one of Ford's masterpiece engines.
While with a 5.0 Coyote I might "have a dog in this fight" of which engine is better, I don't really care anymore. All this back and forth is bullsh!t. Look at the hardware in these things. They're all good engines. What's more, these are amazing trucks.
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Peak torque from the 5.0 Coyote is 3850 rpm... a very comfortable rev range for a DOHC motor. Too, the Coyote engine's pistons are oil-jet cooled from underneath.
Then you've got the Coyote's 8-quart, baffled sump, windage tray, four-bolt main caps and forged crankshaft...
The Coyote could be parked at 5000 revs all day (unnecessary, really, when towing at or below GCWR) for at least 250 engine hours and still be running fine. Ford did this to several Coyotes during this engine's development.
The 5.0 Coyote is an astonishing engine; extremely underappreciated by those who just don't know anything about it's design or what hardcore parts are in them. The EcoBoosts are only amazing.
Then you've got the Coyote's 8-quart, baffled sump, windage tray, four-bolt main caps and forged crankshaft...
The Coyote could be parked at 5000 revs all day (unnecessary, really, when towing at or below GCWR) for at least 250 engine hours and still be running fine. Ford did this to several Coyotes during this engine's development.
The 5.0 Coyote is an astonishing engine; extremely underappreciated by those who just don't know anything about it's design or what hardcore parts are in them. The EcoBoosts are only amazing.
Only 4 bolt mains? The 3.5 has 6 bolt mains, forged steel I beam rods, Forged crank, and CNC machined pistons with steel ring landings like those found in diesels.
The Ecoboost may be based on the NA 3.5 but thats about all it shares, it was built inside and out to withstand the forces of being turbocharged, along with longevity of the turbos with watercooling. And while the turbos do get hot, they are designed to run cherry red for hours at a time and not affect the oil or cooling. If tuned, though, they could cause overheating, Ford has some safeties built in to prevent overheating. I can tell you this first hand. I ran an 87 tune with 85 octane going up the mountains in Utah, and had the truck overheat, though I found out later that the truck did not have a trans cooler installed. I put the stock tune back in while it was cooling off and continued the trip and had no more overheating issues. With a tune, you could push the truck further than it should and cause damage, but with the stock tune, it is safe from overheating, and will still pull past the rest doing the speed limit up a mountain.
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The 3.5 has 6 bolt mains, forged steel I beam rods, Forged crank, and CNC machined pistons with steel ring landings like those found in diesels.
The 3.5 has 6 bolt mains, forged steel I beam rods, Forged crank, and CNC machined pistons with steel ring landings like those found in diesels.
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The 5.0 has 6 bolt mains as well. 4 straight down the cap into the block and 1 on each side just like the 3.5.
The 5.0 has 6 bolt mains as well. 4 straight down the cap into the block and 1 on each side just like the 3.5.
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I remember when a 4 bolt main was a strong block
And now they have 6? Amazing.
I remember when a 4 bolt main was a strong block
And now they have 6? Amazing.
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GM LS engines since 1995 had 6 bolt main caps.............just sayin........
Now for relevance, I love my EB but it's a personal preference and by no means the best engine ever. I hope the internal combustion engine continues to evolve to more powerful and reliable heights. I dread a world of nothing but feel good save the planet electric vehicles.
Now for relevance, I love my EB but it's a personal preference and by no means the best engine ever. I hope the internal combustion engine continues to evolve to more powerful and reliable heights. I dread a world of nothing but feel good save the planet electric vehicles.
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Very true and 80% or more of the F150's on lots in many areas are the 2.7 or 3.5 EB There are very few 5.0's on the lot in comparison.
Ford is forcing a choice and that's the EB equipped trucks
That pretty easy to see.
Ford is forcing a choice and that's the EB equipped trucks
That pretty easy to see.
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GM LS engines since 1995 had 6 bolt main caps.............just sayin........
the vast majority of F-150s sold have one of the two EB motors.
Very true and 80% or more of the F150's on lots in many areas are the 2.7 or 3.5 EB There are very few 5.0's on the lot in comparison.
That was in April this year. Six weeks later my local dealer just 10 miles away had two Ingot Silver 5.0 XLTs. All four 5.0 trucks listed including mine were purchased by these three dealers from Enterprise.
If someone wants the amazing EcoBoost, all they have to do is turn around. If someone wants a 5.0, they'll almost have to order it or spend some time lookin'.