Makoto

thus refuting your own "expensive lawn ornament" claim. I wasn't trying to insult you, I just don't care what you sig says when you're saying things that are inconsistent with reality. there are tons of techs that don't understand the systems deeper than the manual they consult when they repair them.

FYI the 2.7 doesn't even have exhaust manifolds.
it is designed from the bottom up to be a turbo motor.

The turbos are just as much a part of the engine design as the intake manifold.

ultimately its like this. the 2.7 has better mid range and low end torque than the V8.

the V8 makes about the same torque eventually in the top end.

the 2.7 makes more torque under the curve in the spot where you feel it the most and that is why it not only feels faster but is much faster from stop to 60 or so.

and the 3.5 is better than both which is why raptor and GT both rock that.

Makoto

but they're so much fun and educational

I scoffed and thought ford was retarded for going with a 2.7L V6 in a full sized truck.
seriously. I did.

then a couple years later i drove one and when i accidentally did a rolling burnout at 30mph I knew I had to have a truck with this engine.

375ftlbs at 3K rpms feels GOOD y'all.

acdii

Well.....this thread has become a huge load.

MagneticScrew

Y no EB in Super Duty? It has better TQ curve then 6.2L. This is a good one. I still havent heard an answer/opinions from team EB.

Blown F-150

Um, yes the 3.5 eco does have higher peak TQ and a broader TQ curve than the 6.2. Peak Eco is 470 and peak 6.2 is 405. The 6.2 in the SD only eeks out the 3.5 eco by 10HP. Even the Gen 1 Eco outmatches the 6.2 in the SD's in the TQ department.

C'mon man, I thought you were all about the facts.

The Eco is not in the Super Duty because it is the premium engine option in the F150. There is already a premium option in the SuperDuty that far outmatches the Eco in every single catagory. The 6.2 is the base motor.

It also comes down to cost. The gassers in the Super Duties are low volume in comparison to the F150's, there is no reason to develop for the eco when there is no money in it. Commercial vehicles have different emission standards, so no push there either.

Why isn't there a 5.0 in the SD?

Blown F-150

As they always do. Mods will have it shut down by the weekend if it doesn't die it's own death.

69587

Hello there Friend! I see you and the Ford boy band members are at it again! Keep singing boys! Where are those home made graphs again with those high lighted lines. Haha

Makoto

1. boost is literally the replacement for displacement. i could explain the physics behind it but i doubt you care.
2. if you want to spend more money for less engine they'll keep a V8 around for you i'm sure.

I get this kind of thing with the mustang. its like saying a 911 should always have a flat 6. sure. its part of what makes it great but with F150 I think you're wrong on that. What has made the F150 great is that ford has consistently rebuilt the platform to consistently be the most versatile marketable durable vehicle on the planet. they're practically giving 2.7's away to get people hooked on them and for me the strategy worked.

this thing makes my 94 F150 with a cammed, ported, full exhaust pushrod 302 look silly in terms of capability and it should since its over 2 decades removed from that era.

SCORGE

SADD - Same Argument Different Day

Makoto

What?