Finally! The answer to 5.0 vs EB debate
07-17-2017, 09:17 PM
#121
AGREED! Getting that damned clamp off the back of the turbo. what a PITA. Still easier to do than changing spark plugs in one of those chevies from the 80's, the ones with 2" between the block and firewall. Those who have done it, KNOW what I mean!
Turbos on Subahoos, and dudges back in the mid 90's, hated them, and replaced quite a few too.
But wait, there's more. Those who had to replace the water pump on a Tempo, C'mon, lets hear it!
Turbos on Subahoos, and dudges back in the mid 90's, hated them, and replaced quite a few too.
But wait, there's more. Those who had to replace the water pump on a Tempo, C'mon, lets hear it!
07-17-2017, 10:22 PM
#122
Senior Member
AGREED! Getting that damned clamp off the back of the turbo. what a PITA. Still easier to do than changing spark plugs in one of those chevies from the 80's, the ones with 2" between the block and firewall. Those who have done it, KNOW what I mean!
Turbos on Subahoos, and dudges back in the mid 90's, hated them, and replaced quite a few too.
But wait, there's more. Those who had to replace the water pump on a Tempo, C'mon, lets hear it!
Turbos on Subahoos, and dudges back in the mid 90's, hated them, and replaced quite a few too.
But wait, there's more. Those who had to replace the water pump on a Tempo, C'mon, lets hear it!
"Limited space.....".....
The chebbies with the back 2 cylinders under the firewall weren't bad by comparison, remove mounts, lower engine, change plugs, reverse.
07-17-2017, 10:49 PM
#123
Any car that you have to drop the entire engine cradle with engine and trans attached to replace a water pump is the worst PITA in my book! LOL I think all three examples fall on that page.
Then there are the 70's cars, like a Mazda 808 where you can pick the engine block up out of the car without a crane, just two hands. Or the Mazda RX4 with a 13B. The Thermal reactor weighed almost as much as the engine itself. 3 moving parts, but a TON of seals!
Then there are the 70's cars, like a Mazda 808 where you can pick the engine block up out of the car without a crane, just two hands. Or the Mazda RX4 with a 13B. The Thermal reactor weighed almost as much as the engine itself. 3 moving parts, but a TON of seals!
07-17-2017, 11:39 PM
#124
Senior Member
There were a few that my Dad just drilled holes through the fender wells on. Then threw rubber plugs back in to cover the holes.
07-18-2017, 01:00 AM
#125
Senior Member
07-18-2017, 01:17 AM
#126
Senior Member
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LOL at all the guys in this thread that have said "my EcoBoost(s) have never had repairs!" and they've got like 52,000 miles on the clock. 
Come back when you've got 150,000 to 225,000 like the Coyote guys and report back to us then.
Again, nobody in the video walked up to a technician and asked "which truck will go 0-60 a couple of tenths of a second faster?" The whole point was which engine would you buy and why and almost all of them went Coyote for the exact same reason: they rarely ever see those needing repair. You can argue the technical aspects of what words they said all you want, but the fact is these techs see this stuff on a daily basis and trends just stick in their heads. They recall working on EcoBust engines a lot, and that general memory recall immediately causes them to pick the opposite choice. If you understand the entire point of the video, it's quite educational.
Along those lines, two things are also true: 1) If you put forced induction on the Coyote, it will absolutely embarrass the little V6TT engines. 2) If the Coyote had turbos, intercooler, supplemental vacuum pump, direct injection, etc. it would have been just as problematic and annoying.
The reason more V8 trucks are sold in this country than V6 trucks is because you can get the same power without all that supplemental equipment to force the power, hence increasing reliability and longevity. Otherwise V8s would have died decades ago.
Come back when you've got 150,000 to 225,000 like the Coyote guys and report back to us then.
Again, nobody in the video walked up to a technician and asked "which truck will go 0-60 a couple of tenths of a second faster?" The whole point was which engine would you buy and why and almost all of them went Coyote for the exact same reason: they rarely ever see those needing repair. You can argue the technical aspects of what words they said all you want, but the fact is these techs see this stuff on a daily basis and trends just stick in their heads. They recall working on EcoBust engines a lot, and that general memory recall immediately causes them to pick the opposite choice. If you understand the entire point of the video, it's quite educational.
Along those lines, two things are also true: 1) If you put forced induction on the Coyote, it will absolutely embarrass the little V6TT engines. 2) If the Coyote had turbos, intercooler, supplemental vacuum pump, direct injection, etc. it would have been just as problematic and annoying.
The reason more V8 trucks are sold in this country than V6 trucks is because you can get the same power without all that supplemental equipment to force the power, hence increasing reliability and longevity. Otherwise V8s would have died decades ago.
https://www.google.com/amp/truckyeah...1790602670/amp
People laughed at the aluminum body as well since no one else was doing it......
07-18-2017, 01:41 AM
#127
Senior Member
https://www.google.com/amp/truckyeah...1790602670/amp
People laughed at the aluminum body as well since no one else was doing it......
People laughed at the aluminum body as well since no one else was doing it......
There are quite a few with 200+k miles on them. even a couple posted with over 300k miles.
07-18-2017, 01:57 AM
#128
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Don't mind him, he's quite the Hypocrite. He's telling all the Eco owners to report back when they have high mileage and not reference others, when he's doing the exact same thing with his 5.0...what a laugh.
There are quite a few with 200+k miles on them. even a couple posted with over 300k miles.
There are quite a few with 200+k miles on them. even a couple posted with over 300k miles.
07-18-2017, 09:38 AM
#129
Senior Member
AGREED! Getting that damned clamp off the back of the turbo. what a PITA. Still easier to do than changing spark plugs in one of those chevies from the 80's, the ones with 2" between the block and firewall. Those who have done it, KNOW what I mean!
Turbos on Subahoos, and dudges back in the mid 90's, hated them, and replaced quite a few too.
But wait, there's more. Those who had to replace the water pump on a Tempo, C'mon, lets hear it!
Turbos on Subahoos, and dudges back in the mid 90's, hated them, and replaced quite a few too.
But wait, there's more. Those who had to replace the water pump on a Tempo, C'mon, lets hear it!
When travelling earlier this summer, saw a Tempo filling up at the gas station. First one I had seen in a long time. Guess they are technically classics now. Can't believe any are still on the road.
07-18-2017, 10:23 AM
#130
AGREED! Getting that damned clamp off the back of the turbo. what a PITA. Still easier to do than changing spark plugs in one of those chevies from the 80's, the ones with 2" between the block and firewall. Those who have done it, KNOW what I mean!
Turbos on Subahoos, and dudges back in the mid 90's, hated them, and replaced quite a few too.
But wait, there's more. Those who had to replace the water pump on a Tempo, C'mon, lets hear it!
Turbos on Subahoos, and dudges back in the mid 90's, hated them, and replaced quite a few too.
But wait, there's more. Those who had to replace the water pump on a Tempo, C'mon, lets hear it!
Try putting a set of belts on a early Tempo diesel, talk about a bitch to do.
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