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Old 06-04-2013, 07:23 AM   #21
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I've gotten 27 MPG hwy, 24, 21 and 20... Depends on driving conditions and habits. But getting 23 MPG with the thing LOADED with people and luggage is normal. 16 MPG city is my Avg.

The biggest game changer for me was adding the new 10-ply tires. Dropped a good 3 MPG hwy and 1 city.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:35 AM   #22
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My fords (in order of ownership highway mpg)

1981 f100 3speed 300CI 2:73 gear 23mpg (owned till wheels came off)
1993 F150 5 speed 300CI 3:55 gear 16mpg (sold to friend)
2001 F250 auto 7.3 3:55 gear 22mpg (wife totaled it on ice, would have never sold it)
2002 f150 4.6 auto 3:55 gear 15mpg all the time( was not fond of this one for several reason)
1996 f250 7.3 3:55 gear 21mpg(burnt the title, not for sale)(future plans fifth wheel)
2013 2013 eb crew 3:31 lariat(to be determined)nice truck so far
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I'm new on here and have had my new F-150 only 2 months but it is the best vehicle I have ever had so far. I have a Super Crew, 5.0 V8, 3.55 rear, RWD, and so far am getting about 17 mpg. Better then the 15 mpg I got on a 2011 Silverado. I never believe those numbers on a sticker, I went in thinking if it gets close to those numbers I am not going to be upset, it is after all almost 6,000 pound vehicle.
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On my 98...I could do very well MPG wise if I used an EXTREMELY light foot....but then everybody was tailing me trying to get me to accelerate a little faster...
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:53 AM   #25
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Just a note on the original topic, they use pure-gas for the EPA testing. That results in about 5% better sticker numbers than with the E10 that is forced upon us by the same EPA. I think they're trying to hide the effects of the idiotic Ethanol mandate.

There is a lot of good info on their page:

fueleconomy.gov
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Just a note on the original topic, they use pure-gas for the EPA testing. That results in about 5% better sticker numbers than with the E10 that is forced upon us by the same EPA. I think they're trying to hide the effects of the idiotic Ethanol mandate.

There is a lot of good info on their page:

fueleconomy.gov
I didn't know they did that. I burn Shell Gold because it's one of the few fuels available here in Alberta that has no ethanol. My truck sits a lot and i don't want moisture issues with the fuel. I'd buy regular if I could find it without ethanol. I get really good mileage as well. The first tank of fuel in my 2012 F150 delivered less than stellar mileage with the cheap, regular, E10 fuel as does my 2013 with the same engine. Once this first tank is burned off I will go back to the Shell fuel.

I don't know if ethanol is the way to go. I have heard arguments for and against. I am not sold on it. I know we have to do something, but I don't know if the loss of mileage really equates to less environmental damage.

Oh well. But then again, what I don't know would fill a warehouse....
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I didn't know they did that. ....
Yep. . . right off their homepage: "Do EPA fuel economy estimates account for the use of ethanol blends that are common today? No. The EPA fuel economy tests use 100 percent gasoline, and no adjustments are made to account for ethanol. Most conventional vehicles using E10 (10 percent ethanol) will experience a 3 to 4 percent reduction in fuel economy."

So the EPA makes most people use E10, but in their own testing they use pure-gas. Why would they do that, if not to hide the effects of their own rules?
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Yep. . . right off their homepage: "Do EPA fuel economy estimates account for the use of ethanol blends that are common today? No. The EPA fuel economy tests use 100 percent gasoline, and no adjustments are made to account for ethanol. Most conventional vehicles using E10 (10 percent ethanol) will experience a 3 to 4 percent reduction in fuel economy."

So the EPA makes most people use E10, but in their own testing they use pure-gas. Why would they do that, if not to hide the effects of their own rules?
That's an excellent point. And with mileage driven consumers, they are duped into believing statistics that I believe are suspect at best. Mileage wasn't my primary concern when I made my purchase, but as we have seen on this forum, it is for many. And they made their purchase with blind faith in bogus statistics.
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2013 F-150XL regular cab 3.7 liter 6 speed auto

Sticker said 17 city, 19 average and 23 highway mpg's

I'm getting almost 21 highway and my average is about 19.5..

I'm happy considering I Always have about 1,000 pounds in the back
and I drive 75 mph not 65..

Swapping to full synthetic netted me a definite .6 mpg gain and I may get more
when I wear out the OEM Hankook AT redneck tires and get proper road rubber
under this thing.

The stock tires work well but they are noisy and noise means rolling resistance...
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I have owned my truck only three days. It is a 2013 super crew fx4 with the 5.0. Window sticker said 19 highway I believe 15 city and an overall average of 16mpg. I've only had it on the interstate about 4 times, but in the 250 miles I have put on it so far my overall average mpg is 16.1 so far dead on with window sticker. I will be taking it on its first fairly long interstate trip tomorrow and see how it does on strictly highway.
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