To Ecoboost or not to Ecoboost
#21
The 5.0 coyote is more reliable than the EB engines, no one can't argue that. No one can't = everyone can. Double negative. You're making it difficult to know if it's an arguable conclusion or not. My head feels funny..
I'll pour even more gasoline in the fire : That's a terrible thing to do, people get hurt pouring flammable liquids on flames. I worry for you.
As I said, and continue saying, the more parts there is in an engine, the higher the probabilities of of something failing/breaking in the course of its life, it's as simple as that. Got it! It makes sense and is very logical. Only the parts count matters. Thank you, we've cleared this up and my head feels normal again!
I see you coming with your ''well, the V8 has 2 aditionnal cylinders & pistons so there are as many parts as the V6TT and blablabla'' and let me clear things up right now, a turbocharging system is prone to fail much more than 2 additional cylinders in a N/A engine. Crud, I thought you just said it's just the parts count that matters. I take back my thank you since you've muddied up your whole post by trying make an exception for your case. My head aches now.
Plus, I'm pretty sure that 99% of Ecoboost owners run them on regular fuel, which ends up decreasing its lifespan (knock knock knock). I don't care that Ford says regular fuel is OK. You know why they say that? Because no one would buy their EB engines if premium fuel was a must. Dag-nabbit! Now it's not the parts count or the turbos?!?! It's really the fuel/maintenance decisions of the owners that we gotta consider. My head aches worse now. I think my eye might be starting to twitch...
But in the end, who cares? Most of us here don't keep our vehicles long enough to witness any of this. Now, none of it even matters?! This whole post is just a tease to get me all worried only to find out it doesn't even matter?! My head is now splitting with pain and I think I'm becoming near-sighted....but it's hard to tell since my eyes are both twitching faster than the emergency lights on an ambulance...
Did I go with the EB engine on my new truck? Yes. Would I buy a 5+ years old 2.7 or 3.5 EB? No. ACK!!!! It all matters again...but only because of age, not parts count or turbos or fuel/maintenance choices? My head doesn't hurt any longer.... I think the aneurysm cleared it up. I might have had a minor stroke from all the loops and convolutions of this one
I'll pour even more gasoline in the fire : That's a terrible thing to do, people get hurt pouring flammable liquids on flames. I worry for you.
As I said, and continue saying, the more parts there is in an engine, the higher the probabilities of of something failing/breaking in the course of its life, it's as simple as that. Got it! It makes sense and is very logical. Only the parts count matters. Thank you, we've cleared this up and my head feels normal again!
I see you coming with your ''well, the V8 has 2 aditionnal cylinders & pistons so there are as many parts as the V6TT and blablabla'' and let me clear things up right now, a turbocharging system is prone to fail much more than 2 additional cylinders in a N/A engine. Crud, I thought you just said it's just the parts count that matters. I take back my thank you since you've muddied up your whole post by trying make an exception for your case. My head aches now.
Plus, I'm pretty sure that 99% of Ecoboost owners run them on regular fuel, which ends up decreasing its lifespan (knock knock knock). I don't care that Ford says regular fuel is OK. You know why they say that? Because no one would buy their EB engines if premium fuel was a must. Dag-nabbit! Now it's not the parts count or the turbos?!?! It's really the fuel/maintenance decisions of the owners that we gotta consider. My head aches worse now. I think my eye might be starting to twitch...
But in the end, who cares? Most of us here don't keep our vehicles long enough to witness any of this. Now, none of it even matters?! This whole post is just a tease to get me all worried only to find out it doesn't even matter?! My head is now splitting with pain and I think I'm becoming near-sighted....but it's hard to tell since my eyes are both twitching faster than the emergency lights on an ambulance...
Did I go with the EB engine on my new truck? Yes. Would I buy a 5+ years old 2.7 or 3.5 EB? No. ACK!!!! It all matters again...but only because of age, not parts count or turbos or fuel/maintenance choices? My head doesn't hurt any longer.... I think the aneurysm cleared it up. I might have had a minor stroke from all the loops and convolutions of this one
Ahh....the pain of so many people justifying so many choices....
Ford should have foreseen all the controversy they would create.
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#23
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No conspiracy here... The 5.0 is more reliable than the EB engines for now, it's as simple as that.
Toyota is also more reliable than Ford for now, and anyone who argues that is a complete idiot. Sorry for saying that, but it's the brutal truth. Would I buy a Tundra? No, because I like my Ford truck, but I'm fully aware it's less reliable than the Japanese brand.
Toyota is also more reliable than Ford for now, and anyone who argues that is a complete idiot. Sorry for saying that, but it's the brutal truth. Would I buy a Tundra? No, because I like my Ford truck, but I'm fully aware it's less reliable than the Japanese brand.
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#24
Maybe not....you missed all the RED in what I quoted from you a couple of posts up....you trouble starter. lol And, we all know the 4.6 was the best V8 Ford ever made....but by parts count, all the V8's pale to the naturally aspired V6 3.3L....so I guess it's the best.
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#29
I don't get the issue with Eco Boost. Is everyone worried about the Turbo? Toyota had a Turbo engine truck back in the 80's, it's not new tech. I can tell after 3 weeks with mine my gas savings is so much better than my dodge I traded, plus it has a heavier payload. Put the petal to the metal and the thing takes off pretty good.
#30
Given that there are hundreds of thousands of these vehicles on the road, with regards to the various posts giving reliability/unreliability expectations on one engine verses another, or one brand verses another without citing any actual supporting empirical data, I can only think back to this famous quote:
"More than 75% of the statistics found posted on the internet are made up". - Abraham Lincoln
"More than 75% of the statistics found posted on the internet are made up". - Abraham Lincoln
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