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FlyBoy141 12-21-2018 10:45 PM

Does your truck do this?
 
2018 F-150 XLT SCREW 5.0 10 speed FX4

truck chatters/rattles when shifting gears or going up a slight incline with low RPM’s. Have taken it to the dealer 4 times now, each time they “can’t hear anything”. They did the TSB update and it did not fix anything. It’s not the vacuum/hubs up front either. Anyone else have this issue??? No CEL or warning lights and the truck shifts fine, but this noise is VERY audible in person and a few friends have heard it while I drive by and each one had no idea I was hearing the noise either as I had not told them about the noise

oh, and 7100 miles currently on truck. Noise started around 3000 miles and has been to dealer 4 times since 3000 miles

aeterna 12-22-2018 12:01 AM

What motor you got? I have not heard of this particular issue but I recommend taking as many videos of the issue as you can so you have definitive proof to show.

idrive 12-22-2018 01:01 AM

Run it in Sport Mode and see if it still does it.

marshallr 12-22-2018 08:05 AM

All newer vehicles try to get into the highest gear possible, ASAP in order to get better fuel mileage. It sounds like it is in a gear too high for the conditions and with the engine at very low rpm's is struggling. I don't think anything is wrong with the truck. Just push the skinny pedal closer to the floor to get rpm's up and drop down to a lower gear. The 3.5 develops torque at much lower rpm and this probably isn't an issue with that engine. The 5.0 is a strong engine as well, but it is made to run faster to get it's power.

FlyBoy141 12-22-2018 08:13 AM

I’ve tried uploading the videos from my phone on here, but it won’t upload for some reason. I’m new to these forum things, so forgive me. I’ve clicked on the 10th icon (beside the smiley face) in the reply box and then chose the video I wanted to upload, but it isn’t showing up on the post here

and idrive, I’ve tried it in tow mode, sport mode, eco mode, normal mode, 4 wheel drive engaged, etc. it still does it

The only time the truck doesn’t do it is if I really get down on the pedal. If I really give her a lot pedal taking off or if I’m on highway speed and come up to an incline at low rpms, if I give it more gas than it needs and make the transmission downshift...the noise is not there. This is what leads me to believe it’s the tranny and not the motor. But, either way, the mechanics that have ridden with me “can’t hear anything”

hudman 12-22-2018 02:06 PM

Having some weird tranny issues with my 2018 RCSB 4x4 5.0 3.73, just shy of 600miles. Tranny in normal mode at low rpm is having hard time finding right gear. This just started in last 75miles or about a week ago as I have 14mile daily commute . In stop and go traffic it really sucks as tranny doesn't know what to do, or I give more pressure on gas peddle and it lurches forward. In sport mode it works fine. Not impressed right now with Ford at all. Between 2x having doors not shut in cold weather, tranny issue, noisy engine, 13.5 mpg. I have had many different brands of vehicles and never seen issues as I having with this Ford. Not a happy customer, any make, model vehicles with these type of issues should never make it to the public.

korbinbaird 12-22-2018 02:16 PM


Check this video out. Is this the noise you hear?

FlyBoy141 12-22-2018 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by korbinbaird (Post 6025878)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhBsxLqIbZE

Check this video out. Is this the noise you hear?

no sir, this isn’t the same sound as the video. I seen that thread as well and read every comment, lol. Mine is different. I wish I could upload the video I have of mine, but for whatever reason I cannot upload it

but thank you, I wish it was that noise but it isn’t

jack11672 12-22-2018 06:36 PM

I have a 2017 3.5 Ecoboost. When sitting at idle, it sounds like a lifter is sticking. Dealer hears nothing. Anyone else hear something like this?

FallGuy44 12-22-2018 08:49 PM

Check the 15+ section. Lots having this issue.

FlyBoy141 01-15-2019 06:16 PM

I’ve got an update on my truck. After taking it to two different dealers two different times, the problem is not fixed just yet but the symptoms I explained in my first post are better/quieter.

The first 2 times I took it in the dealer said “normal characteristics of the truck”, which I did not agree with and I told them. The 3rd time I took it in was to a different dealer and they kept my truck all day long. The transmission mechanic rode with me and drove it himself with me in the truck and he heard the noise several times. We got back to the dealership and he told the service guy “his truck definitely has a noise and it is not normal, but I have no idea where to even start looking for what’s causing it”. He submitted a hotline ticket to ford explaining what my truck was doing and told me when they hear back they would let me know. 4 days later I still hadn’t heard anything from that dealer so I called them. They said “bring it in and we want to look at the front differential”. I told them this definitely isn’t a differential issue, but I’d bring it in. They put chassis muffs on it after keeping it all day and called saying they found the noise. I was excited but that quickly went away. Got to the dealership and they said my transmission skid plate wasn’t mounted right from the factory and at certain RPM’s it had a vibration noise. Said they took it off, placed some bushing and rebolted it on and drove the truck for 30 minutes and the noise is gone. Well, I got in my truck and didn’t even get out of the damn parking lot and the noise was OBVIOUSLY still there that I had been hearing.

Took the truck to another dealer a few days later, the one I bought the truck at which is 1.5 hrs away. Told them what was going on with my truck and how no one can seem to fix it. Mechanic rode with me for a bit and heard the noise several times. It baffles him, but he didn’t give up. Got back to the shop and he got on the hotline forum and found a few other trucks that mechanics had put a ticket in for that we’re having the same issues as mine. This is where the TSB-18-2354 comes into play...which my truck had had this update done twice to no avail. The mechanic recommended trying 93 octane fuel to see if the nose went away or helped because he thought the noise sounded a lot like spark knock/premature detonation. When he said that I actually thought he was blowing me off. Well, I needed gas when I left so I put half a tank of 93 in and let me tell you, it’s helped. The noise is still there but it isn’t as loud nor as consistent as it was before. I called the mechanic back to tell him and he said he was going to add an addendum to hit own hotline ticket to Ford engineers to let them know what 93 octane did. He said since ford has released a TSB on this already, they know there is a problem and he hopes that another TSB update to correct the spark knock issue will be sent out before long. I told him I’m not running 93 every time I fill up, I shouldn’t have to. He agreed and said he feels that ford will find a fix for this fairly soon and they will keep me updated

sorry for the long post, but I wanted to give detail as to my recent experience with trying to get the truck fixed. Like I said, it isn’t completely fixed but the noise is MUCH better after running 93 versus 87. It’s a waiting game on ford now to send out a TSB update/fix

moparado 01-15-2019 06:49 PM

Since 93 octane seems to help, could you be hearing pre-ignition knocking noise?
If so, could be a bad knock sensor, bad gas or ignition timing.

FlyBoy141 01-15-2019 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by moparado (Post 6054625)
Since 93 octane seems to help, could you be hearing pre-ignition knocking noise?
If so, could be a bad knock sensor, bad gas or ignition timing.

we discussed those things. I don’t have any CEL or codes stored, he plugged in and checked. Even checked to see if there was a newer TSB. And I get gas at all sorts of different gas stations and it’s been doing this since around 2,000 miles or so and now I’m at 9,000. But yea, him and I believe now that the noise is pre-ignition knock at low RPM’s. He said pretty much it sounds like the timing is slightly off which he expects ford to send out a new TSB to fix this.

Im not saying this is the exact cause, all I’m saying is changing to 93 octane changed the loudness and consistency of what I was experiencing, fairly quick also I hadn’t drove but maybe 10 miles and noticed the difference. All day today I’ve been in my truck and the noise is still noticeably quieter and less consistent

moparado 01-16-2019 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by FlyBoy141 (Post 6054661)


we discussed those things. I don’t have any CEL or codes stored, he plugged in and checked. Even checked to see if there was a newer TSB. And I get gas at all sorts of different gas stations and it’s been doing this since around 2,000 miles or so and now I’m at 9,000. But yea, him and I believe now that the noise is pre-ignition knock at low RPM’s. He said pretty much it sounds like the timing is slightly off which he expects ford to send out a new TSB to fix this.

Im not saying this is the exact cause, all I’m saying is changing to 93 octane changed the loudness and consistency of what I was experiencing, fairly quick also I hadn’t drove but maybe 10 miles and noticed the difference. All day today I’ve been in my truck and the noise is still noticeably quieter and less consistent

I doubt if the timing was off enough to cause pre-ignition knock it would throw a CEL.
If the tech suspected timing, why didn't he throw the engine on his diagnostic computer to verify?
Maybe a cam phaser acting up?

Back in the day before all this computerized ignition/injection, a timing light was all that was needed to check the valve timing.
Those good 'ol days when one could easily diagnose and fix their own vehicles.

nubbins_ 01-16-2019 07:14 PM

What do you feel when you hear the noise? It's low RPM on slight inclines, lugging the engine, so do you feel shudder or vibration?

FlyBoy141 01-16-2019 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by nubbins_ (Post 6056066)
What do you feel when you hear the noise? It's low RPM on slight inclines, lugging the engine, so do you feel shudder or vibration?

I dont feel anything at all in the peddle or anywhere with the truck. My 2008 F-150 I had would lug and I could feel it in the peddle, it had the 5.4 that was known for that issue and misfires

the mechanic did hook up the iPad looking thing to my USB and he didn’t say anything about any misfire codes. And I’ve never once had a CEL and I told him this baffles me. These new trucks have so much electronic bull**** on them that you’d think what I’m hearing and others are hearing, it would throw a dang code or something...but it isn’t. It’s annoying as hell knowing I’ve got a $45,000 truck that has a dang rattle/chatter at low RPM’s during shift changes only. I did drive two different 2018 models with the 5.0 as well and both of them had the same noise, although the noise was nowhere near as loud as mine or as consistent

JHC210 01-17-2019 11:54 AM

Hmm. 2018 XLT 2.7l. 3k miles. I was getting a stutter when shifting the last 1k miles. Happened twice. This morning, pulled to a stop, pulled out and the transmission stuttered big time and "No Drive Mode" warning came on. Costed to a stop. The little wrench light came on too. Limped back home. Called Ford and getting towed in. Anyone experience this?

FlyBoy141 02-11-2019 08:53 PM

Back to square one
 
I’ve been running 93 on every fill up since my last post. Noise WAS less consistent and quieter....but it didn’t last. The noise is now back as loud as before and just as consistent. I’ve told the mechanic as well and he still hasn’t heard back from Ford. This is annoying and ridiculous in my opinion. I paid this much for a brand new truck and no one can seem to fix it or figure it out. I love the truck, but hate this dang noise. Sooo, back to 87 on fill ups now, no use in wasting the money on each fill for 93 and no change in the noise


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