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Old 01-09-2018, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gone postal
You're trusting people to make sound economic decisions?
Ha! Good point, though I think most people would do better at making such decisions than the feds.
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So do I, but I wouldn't accuse them of making rational economic decisions.
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Originally Posted by gone postal
So do I, but I wouldn't accuse them of making rational economic decisions.
When money is short, the rationality of economic decisions improves. Living from paycheck to paycheck tends to bring out the inner miser in people.
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Unlike others who claim to get 26 MPG, without substantiating it, I can.

Click the banner. Real world accurate statistics for a 2014 RWD Lariat Screw SB 3.5 EB



Note the high of 24 MPG. To achieve that, stay at 55 or lower. My average speed for the life of the truck was 52 MPH, using the CC set between 60 and 62 MPH on rural roads and state highways in WI. That includes Summer and Winter temps and fuel. It also includes several thousand miles towing my travel trailer on several trips including Rockford IL to Bryce Canyon Utah through Colorado on I-70. All documented.

The most significant drop in MPG when not towing is when I did Interstate speeds of 70 MPH or more. There is no denying that going above 60 MPH impacts fuel economy, to think otherwise is just foolish.

Drag coefficient of the F150 is 0.35, a 1969 Dodge Daytona has a DC of 0.28, so saying the F150 is more aerodynamic than old muscle cars is incorrect.

I used to have a ppprius, hated that damned thing, but it did get 75 MPG on the tollway between Pennsylvania and IL. That car did have a fairly accurate trip meter, it was within .75 MPG. Unfortunately I did not know that retiring the car in Fuelly erased the data.

Here is my current F150, 33K record miles so far, and last two weeks have been bitterly cold so you can see the drop in MPG. If I were doing 70-80 MPH daily instead of 60, it too would be at 14 MPG.

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I just got back from a 78 mile trip in my new 2018 SCAB 4WD 3.5 EB 10 speed and much to my surprise the meter said 21.3 MPG in mixed city country with some hills. About 45 deg. F. I didn't baby her just drove normally. Only 250 miles on the odometer. Not even broken in. 3.31 rear end.. No tonneau cover. 3 passengers. I haven't hand calculated yet but later this week I will be driving a similar trip and will top her off and break out the pencil and paper.
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If that meter is anything like the others, I would bet that is about 19.9 to 20.3 actual. Still very good MPG on a brand new truck!

I found mine to be more accurate the more fuel I use. It is within .2 when towing, and up to 1.5 otherwise. The higher it goes the greater the spread. I would be VERY happy with what you got!
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Maybe Ford has changed it's recommendation for the 2018 model Ecoboost,
but the owners manual for my 2014 EB, specifically says to NOT use E85 fuel.

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Tank 1 - 14.5 (60/40 city/hwy)
Tank 2 - 15.99 (all highway @ 80mph)
Tank 3 - 15.99 (all highway @ 80mph)
Tank 4 - 12.8 (70/30 city)
Tank 5 - 13.2 (60/40 city/hwy)
Tank 6 - 11.92 (all highway @ 80mph, 20 miles in 4x4) with E85


Loud intermittent ticking noise also coming from engine. Has been there since new

These numbers look normal? Am very close to trading it in for a different truck that actually achieves EPA estimates

'18 F150, 3.5EB, 3.55, 6.5ft bed, 2100 miles, cruise set as much as possible
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The ecoboost engines, including the 18's are not flex fuel and require a minimum of 87 octane.

AND - Cruise control does not get better mileage than not using it if making an effort to achieve the best mpg's.


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Originally Posted by Tom_with_a_Truck
Given that most interstate speed limits are 65-75 mph, why does the EPA not test vehicles at those speeds to determine highway mileage? It would be lower, especially for high wind-resistance vehicles like our trucks, but it would also be more honest.
probably because they wrote the standards with the current and past testing standards in mind. If they change the variables, they have to change the standards. That would be fine, but that would require the federal gov't 35 years to go thru their process to change it
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Originally Posted by Tom_with_a_Truck
There shouldn't even be a CAFE standard. I mean, gas prices will drive people into the vehicle that makes economic sense to them. The government doesn't need to stand in the way.

That said, they should revise the program to be more realistic, and should adjust the CAFE standards accordingly, if they're going to insist on government intervention.
YES, YES, YES!!! The government has no business in this, but a 3rd party that does realistic testing on fuel economy would be great to baseline all the manufacturers and keep them honest to consumers.


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