Chivalry? IS it Dead?
#21
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I guess it is the parents, my dad used to sit with his arm around my mom in church, guess where I was seated. Thump, if I talked or looked around.
I know there are issues, but just that I made time, showed up late for work, even got a little grease on my shirt and pants. Maybe it's me, but when I see someone my age or older not display manners, I really gets me fired up. I am the only guy my fiancée dated that opened every door for her every door. She still isn't used to it, and we have been together for 4 years.
I know there are issues, but just that I made time, showed up late for work, even got a little grease on my shirt and pants. Maybe it's me, but when I see someone my age or older not display manners, I really gets me fired up. I am the only guy my fiancée dated that opened every door for her every door. She still isn't used to it, and we have been together for 4 years.
#22
In general I don't agree with the male-female dynamic connotation of the world "chivalry", but I do believe people being courteous and helpful to others is dying out slowly but surely. However, there are still a decent number of good folks out there that will lend a hand if need be. And BTW, a guy helping out a woman simply because she's hott is not chivalrous behavior. That's trying to get an in to get laid.
If you're close by, I hold the door for you regardless of whether you're male or female. Some guys look at me a little shocked thinking it's weird a female is holding the door for them I guess. Some people say thanks. Some people blow by without a word. If you're holding a bunch of stuff in your hands, I will go out of my way to open the door for you. If you drop something, again regardless of gender/age/whatever, I will generally come over and help you pick it up. I've pulled over and helped quite a few people push their cars into parking lots when they've died on the road. I've offered to help people carry stuff if they appear they could use help. And on it on it goes.
Likewise I've had tons of people open doors for me (always making sure to thank them when they do) or help me carry stuff when needed. One guy helped my best friend and I change a tire at a gas station when it went flat on a roadtrip. And there are quite a few other examples of courteous and helpful behavior.
I will say to the men out there that are trying to genuinely help out a woman that appears to need it, don't be offended if your offer is nicely refused. As a woman you have to literally always be on guard for a man trying to take advantage of you. There are a ton of bad men and rapists out there, and you can't tell just from looking at someone if they are or not.
If you're close by, I hold the door for you regardless of whether you're male or female. Some guys look at me a little shocked thinking it's weird a female is holding the door for them I guess. Some people say thanks. Some people blow by without a word. If you're holding a bunch of stuff in your hands, I will go out of my way to open the door for you. If you drop something, again regardless of gender/age/whatever, I will generally come over and help you pick it up. I've pulled over and helped quite a few people push their cars into parking lots when they've died on the road. I've offered to help people carry stuff if they appear they could use help. And on it on it goes.
Likewise I've had tons of people open doors for me (always making sure to thank them when they do) or help me carry stuff when needed. One guy helped my best friend and I change a tire at a gas station when it went flat on a roadtrip. And there are quite a few other examples of courteous and helpful behavior.
I will say to the men out there that are trying to genuinely help out a woman that appears to need it, don't be offended if your offer is nicely refused. As a woman you have to literally always be on guard for a man trying to take advantage of you. There are a ton of bad men and rapists out there, and you can't tell just from looking at someone if they are or not.
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It's not DEAD, but, A little of the thinking over the past 20-30 years, women want their independence, well, if you think you can do it yourself have at it.
But times have definitely changed , young "men" don't know how to spell "chivalry" let alone what it means.
Or, the men that didn't stop were republicans that hate women:enter sarcasm
But times have definitely changed , young "men" don't know how to spell "chivalry" let alone what it means.
Or, the men that didn't stop were republicans that hate women:enter sarcasm
#24
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almost immediately, especially with a child, but 10 miles down the road in
Birmingham probably a little longer.
#25
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Never said it was, just pointed out that that may have been the only way these guys would have stopped to help this lady, was if she infact was "Hott", I hate how deragotory these labels get. I hate it so much I don't know how to finish what I want to say for fear of offending anyone.
#26
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I will say to the men out there that are trying to genuinely help out a woman that appears to need it, don't be offended if your offer is nicely refused. As a woman you have to literally always be on guard for a man trying to take advantage of you. There are a ton of bad men and rapists out there, and you can't tell just from looking at someone if they are or not.
OP, I think sometimes just being a good human being is on it's way out. But, then a downright good person comes along and renews my faith in mankind.
Last edited by Wanted33; 05-08-2012 at 04:00 PM.
#27
Woman keep asking to be treated equally... sounds like they're getting what they asked for, slowly but surely.
But of course, if we EVER even thought about treating them as total equals, like so many seem to think they want, they would cry out for chivalry again.
Its a catch 22 with woman. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
No stranger species exists on this earth than the female human.
LOL
Don't flatter yourselves !
This reminds me of insecure "heterosexual" men always thinking every gay guy wants to get them in bed, its hilarious.
Just because a guy talks to you, looks at you, or god forbid - offers you help, does not mean he is attracted to you.
You females sure are a trip.
Probably because they grew up in a time where womans equal rights were a huge deal, and woman are constantly going crazy seeking equal treatment... right up until the opposite benefits them of course
But of course, if we EVER even thought about treating them as total equals, like so many seem to think they want, they would cry out for chivalry again.
Its a catch 22 with woman. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
No stranger species exists on this earth than the female human.
Don't flatter yourselves !
This reminds me of insecure "heterosexual" men always thinking every gay guy wants to get them in bed, its hilarious.
Just because a guy talks to you, looks at you, or god forbid - offers you help, does not mean he is attracted to you.
You females sure are a trip.
Probably because they grew up in a time where womans equal rights were a huge deal, and woman are constantly going crazy seeking equal treatment... right up until the opposite benefits them of course
Last edited by chickenburrito; 05-08-2012 at 04:11 PM.
#28
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My dads been a truck driver for a little over 30 years and he told that drivers just arnt as friendly as they use to be. He said back in the 80s and90s everyone would either pull over and help you out and there was so much more nice chatter on the cb. Now he says there's so many silly laws and rules and regulations that it's got everyone depressed and they just don't care about no one but themselves anymore.
Maybe it's just the times were living in not the people themselves.
Maybe it's just the times were living in not the people themselves.
#29
I will say to the men out there that are trying to genuinely help out a woman that appears to need it, don't be offended if your offer is nicely refused. As a woman you have to literally always be on guard for a man trying to take advantage of you. There are a ton of bad men and rapists out there, and you can't tell just from looking at someone if they are or not.
Probably because it was written by a - *gasp*- female !
Or is part of chivalry not telling a female when shes being over-the-top ridiculous/stupid ? Im so confused with this chivalry stuff..
On one hand we're supposed to treat woman as equals, on the other hand, we are only supposed to treat them as equals when it benefits them, when being treated equally does not benefit them, we are supposed to go back to chivalry, am i getting this right so far?
Someone should really write down an instruction manual for this stuff because im lost.
Aside from the obvious contradiction at the end.. that statement is so ridiculous, offense and bizarre it's unbelievable someone was actually able to type that out, hit enter and take themselves seriously.
At this rate, I figure it's best that all men not talk to woman when woman look at them and smile, offer help, hold the door, etc.
For all we know, every woman out there is just using her smile and physical assets to get in our wallets, marry us, then take us for half our worth !
As a man you literally have to always be on the lookout for gold digging woman.
Although you cant tell which ones are which, its best and safest assume the worst from all of them!
#30
When my transmission went on the highway, I got out to push my truck out of the intersection, when I started pushing it backwards a guy got out and helped me, and within 5 min 2 different people asked if i needed help, and one guy offered to tow it to my house, living in a small town helps I guess, and heck I'm a 16 year old kid. I always help people when they have problems, last week i towed my friends dodge ram because the computer went up on it.