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Old 03-29-2017, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ckrackerjack
I agree. I've done the math as well, and unless you need the torque for towing, the value just isn't there. Now, if diesel cost what it actually should (look at the cost of furnace oil, it's diesel) then it might be worth it.

If the torque number of 440 is accurate, the 2017 3.5 EB motor beats that today with 470. Given the added costs to maintain a diesel (additives, higher costs for oil change, potential higher cost for fuel, dual filters (likely), etc.) why would someone choose that over the EB that is getting 20+ mpg? At a high level glance it makes little sense to me.
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I bought a 17' screw 3.5 eco 10sp instead of waiting for the 18's cause i didn't care for the look of the grill, starting to look like a GMC, also the 3.5 has been revised with both direct and port injection helping to keep valves cleaner. I plan on driving it for 10 plus years. The other 2 motors will also get this set up. as far as the auto start/stop its not as bad as others claim just have to get use to it or push the button on dash on startup to turn it off, it's that easy. If i were wanting a diesel i'd wait one model year so they get the bugs out.
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Originally Posted by jeff_the_pilot
Why not wait for 2019?

In all seriousness, if you're in the market go for a 2017! Personal preference of course, but I like the current front end.
I agree with you on the front end. I prefer the 2017 over the 2018 look.
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Originally Posted by MH150
If the torque number of 440 is accurate, the 2017 3.5 EB motor beats that today with 470. Given the added costs to maintain a diesel (additives, higher costs for oil change, potential higher cost for fuel, dual filters (likely), etc.) why would someone choose that over the EB that is getting 20+ mpg? At a high level glance it makes little sense to me.
Where you would see the most advantage with the diesel would be in hauling and towing. That's when the diesel's fuel economy really shines. So unless you're towing something every day, I agree the value is not there.

However, I still like the 5.0L over the 3.5L EcoBoost because the possibility of failing turbos makes me cringe.
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Originally Posted by ckrackerjack
Where you would see the most advantage with the diesel would be in hauling and towing. That's when the diesel's fuel economy really shines. So unless you're towing something every day, I agree the value is not there.

However, I still like the 5.0L over the 3.5L EcoBoost because the possibility of failing turbos makes me cringe.
Well, I guess so. I can only speak from he one I had (6.4, 2010 model) and it didn't live up to that promise at all. I suspect you would have to do a lot of towing to make this have any real impact.

And the turbos...I'm not concerned with that at all. turbos are a well-proven technology. I've owned a few over the years and never had a bit of trouble with them. I know it can happen just like any other part so of course your results may vary
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If there was ever an engine to benefit from the 10sp, its the 5.0


Plus the 18 will get another hp and tq boost
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I dont buy first year engines or body style...
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So what did you decide to do?
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Originally Posted by redd7188
So what did you decide to do?
I have decided to wait for the 2018.

However, the configurator online hasn't been updated for Canada yet. I've been tinkering with some builds using the US site, but it's not quite the same.
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COOL Deal. I also hear that the 2018 will have a better ride because Ford is switching from twin-tube to monotube dampers



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