Brake problems on 2011 F150 platinum ecoboost
06-11-2013, 12:41 AM
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I seem to have same issue with 2011 EB super cab (20K miles). I did an emergency stop in traffic at 60 mph. Couldn't believe how long the stopping distance was. Felt like rotors had wd40 sprayed on them. Dealer ran codes (none) and then tried test run. Same result. He agreed it was unusual. Couldn't get brakes to lock or even engage the ABS. Waiting for full brake inspection tomorrow at dealer. Hopefully something fixable. This is really poor braking and now I am worried about driving at highway speeds.
If anyone else has had this please speak up. Anxious to find a fix.
Thx
If anyone else has had this please speak up. Anxious to find a fix.
Thx
06-11-2013, 10:19 PM
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Any vehicle on the road should be able to either lock the tires or engage the ABS with a 100 pound 80 year old woman pressing on the pedal with stock pads and rotors.
If not, the system is not functioning properly!
I bought my truck to haul my sports car to the track. On track we experience braking issues beyond what you should experience on the street.
Typical causes of brake issues:
1. Over heating - This will cause the pads to lose friction (they will come back after cooling) and can cause brake fluid boiling which will cause air in the brake lines (this requires a bleed). This can be caused by repeated heavy use, down long hills, a stuck caliper, hauling heavy loads.
2. Improperly bedded pads. When new pads are put on a vehicle they must be heated up enough to transfer some pad material to the rotor.
3. Soft brake lines, expanding when pressure increases. Brake lines should last 10 years unless they've been rubbing on something or overheated. On track we use steel wrapped lines.
4. Lack of proper boost. On sports cars, this is usually do to a vacuum leak. I don't know if the trucks use the same system to provide boost.
Between each track day, I inspect my brakes and re-bleed if I've had any fade, from over use. When changing pads, I always check the disks for wear and replace if nessesary or sand the disks if I'm reusing them. Grease all the caliper pins and backs of the pads and bed the pads according to the manufactures instructions.
Brakes are probably one of the simplest systems on the car/truck. There is no excuse for them not working properly. For your safety and those around you need to get them fixed. And don't accept them not working properly.
If not, the system is not functioning properly!
I bought my truck to haul my sports car to the track. On track we experience braking issues beyond what you should experience on the street.
Typical causes of brake issues:
1. Over heating - This will cause the pads to lose friction (they will come back after cooling) and can cause brake fluid boiling which will cause air in the brake lines (this requires a bleed). This can be caused by repeated heavy use, down long hills, a stuck caliper, hauling heavy loads.
2. Improperly bedded pads. When new pads are put on a vehicle they must be heated up enough to transfer some pad material to the rotor.
3. Soft brake lines, expanding when pressure increases. Brake lines should last 10 years unless they've been rubbing on something or overheated. On track we use steel wrapped lines.
4. Lack of proper boost. On sports cars, this is usually do to a vacuum leak. I don't know if the trucks use the same system to provide boost.
Between each track day, I inspect my brakes and re-bleed if I've had any fade, from over use. When changing pads, I always check the disks for wear and replace if nessesary or sand the disks if I'm reusing them. Grease all the caliper pins and backs of the pads and bed the pads according to the manufactures instructions.
Brakes are probably one of the simplest systems on the car/truck. There is no excuse for them not working properly. For your safety and those around you need to get them fixed. And don't accept them not working properly.
Last edited by EricJ; 06-11-2013 at 10:22 PM.
06-11-2013, 10:57 PM
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No help here but when I step on my brakes I have to be careful or they would throw me thru the windshield.
Mine came with 4 wheel disk and towing package so I dunno. But sounds like you may have air in the hydraulic lines.
Mine came with 4 wheel disk and towing package so I dunno. But sounds like you may have air in the hydraulic lines.
Last edited by RLXXI; 06-11-2013 at 11:00 PM.
06-12-2013, 12:00 AM
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turbo issue?
This sounds like a turbo issue. With the pressurized intake, you don't have vacuum boost like a normally aspirated motor. I think they have some additional vacuum pump or something. Maybe its a fuse blown on this auxillary pump? my 2009, while not rock hard, can kick the abs on without issue on dry pavement.
06-13-2013, 02:10 AM
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Just wanted to add an update.
Dealer found calliper was stuck in the 'web' material. This caused excessive heat and premature degradation of the pads. The pads were still thick but were crumbly and needed replacing. The rotors were also overheated and needed to be machined.
They said it was caused by de-icing material sprayed on the roads in my area and that others had the same problem. They say this is not a ford problem but a corrosion problem and therefore not covered in warranty.
I say this is BS! The problem is caused by a part that did not function as designed and caused the pads to overheat and ruin the rotors. If this is caused by de-icing fluid on road then why aren't hundreds of other vehicles having the same problem from every manufacturer (my buddy who lives and drives here just did his first pads on his Tacoma at 110K miles).
I paid the bill but only because I was having a very bad day and I didn't trust myself to confront the dealer without losing my self-control and saying things I later regretted. I do plan on telling as many people as possible that my F150 had its brakes destroyed at 20K miles because of a faulty part and ford wouldn't warranty it.
Dealer found calliper was stuck in the 'web' material. This caused excessive heat and premature degradation of the pads. The pads were still thick but were crumbly and needed replacing. The rotors were also overheated and needed to be machined.
They said it was caused by de-icing material sprayed on the roads in my area and that others had the same problem. They say this is not a ford problem but a corrosion problem and therefore not covered in warranty.
I say this is BS! The problem is caused by a part that did not function as designed and caused the pads to overheat and ruin the rotors. If this is caused by de-icing fluid on road then why aren't hundreds of other vehicles having the same problem from every manufacturer (my buddy who lives and drives here just did his first pads on his Tacoma at 110K miles).
I paid the bill but only because I was having a very bad day and I didn't trust myself to confront the dealer without losing my self-control and saying things I later regretted. I do plan on telling as many people as possible that my F150 had its brakes destroyed at 20K miles because of a faulty part and ford wouldn't warranty it.
06-13-2013, 05:54 PM
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A brake caliper should not freeze up on the pins in a truck with 20k miles on it... Especially because 20k miles would only be 2 winters at best on most daily driven trucks if they are blaming this on winter road chemicals. The grease and rubber boots on the slide pins should be protecting pins from corrosion that would be so bad as to freeze the caliper in place.
I call BS, the fact is that some parts will be faulty. Out of the hundreds of thousands of trucks pumped out of each assembly plant, some are going to have parts failure. It is a game of numbers. The brakes are part of government mandated safety system regulations and it should be covered under warranty.
Even with the truck still being under warranty, I would have been pulling the wheels off and checking the pads, rotors, and calipers myself. Especially after having Ford authorized technicians saying it feels strange and they did nothing further.
I call BS, the fact is that some parts will be faulty. Out of the hundreds of thousands of trucks pumped out of each assembly plant, some are going to have parts failure. It is a game of numbers. The brakes are part of government mandated safety system regulations and it should be covered under warranty.
Even with the truck still being under warranty, I would have been pulling the wheels off and checking the pads, rotors, and calipers myself. Especially after having Ford authorized technicians saying it feels strange and they did nothing further.
06-14-2013, 07:39 PM
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Get this!
I called the company responsible for highway maintenance to find out what they are using on my local highway. Turns out it is just salt, same as they use all over the world. There is no mystery solution they are spraying at all. They have also been using it for over 10 years.
I went back to dealer to explain this. They were a bit embarrassed that they told me there was some special road solution causing my problem when there wasn't. They also say it still isn't a warranty problem!
I spoke to manager and he is going to talk to Ford warranty dept to see if he can get it covered.
Basically : caliper failed for some unknown reason at 20 K miles, caused over-heating of pads and rotors, Dealer is refusing warranty coverage. Wow!
I called the company responsible for highway maintenance to find out what they are using on my local highway. Turns out it is just salt, same as they use all over the world. There is no mystery solution they are spraying at all. They have also been using it for over 10 years.
I went back to dealer to explain this. They were a bit embarrassed that they told me there was some special road solution causing my problem when there wasn't. They also say it still isn't a warranty problem!
I spoke to manager and he is going to talk to Ford warranty dept to see if he can get it covered.
Basically : caliper failed for some unknown reason at 20 K miles, caused over-heating of pads and rotors, Dealer is refusing warranty coverage. Wow!
07-24-2013, 03:53 PM
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Hello, I am new to the forum I have a 2011 f150 ecoboost that seems to have major braking issues at speeds over 55 mph. It feels like the vehicle comes to gliding stop. The brakes don't seem to have enough stopping power when slamming on the brakes at high speeds. 3 people at the dealer drove the truck and recognize the issue, however both they and ford say it is simply a characteristic of the vehicle. Any thoughts? Anyone with the same issue?
07-24-2013, 05:55 PM
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Hi everyone.
I encourage you to have any brake concerns diagnosed by your dealer. If you need me to step in and assist once you've done that, please PM me your name, phone number, VIN, mileage, and dealer info, and I'll see how I can help.
Ashley
I encourage you to have any brake concerns diagnosed by your dealer. If you need me to step in and assist once you've done that, please PM me your name, phone number, VIN, mileage, and dealer info, and I'll see how I can help.
Ashley
03-25-2014, 02:08 AM
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Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I could not find anything more recent and this thread is very relevant to my issue. I have about 25K miles on my 2011 Ecoboost Fx4 and recently I have noticed very poor braking performance. My experience is very similar to the original post, if I push the brake pedal to the floor at 30mph or higher I just glide to a stop. I ordered some Hawk LTS pads as I heard great reviews and I tow quite a bit during the summer, I also assumed my towing through the mountains would cause premature brake wear on the original pads. Well, after the new pads were installed and rotors machined I took it out to bed in the new brakes. I couldn't really bed them in very well because I could not do hard braking from 40-45 mph. I could push the pedal through the floor and still glide to a semi-urgent stop, but nowhere near hard. The brake fluid is full and I don't know what else to check.
I'm calling Ford to set up an appointment but wanted to know if there are any known issues or solutions I can mention before I get there. I'm concerned I'll get the answer that this is just a characteristic of the truck, and not a malfunction. I have no codes or check-engine lights so any advice is appreciated, it seems almost dangerous to drive right now so I hope there is a fix for it.
I'm calling Ford to set up an appointment but wanted to know if there are any known issues or solutions I can mention before I get there. I'm concerned I'll get the answer that this is just a characteristic of the truck, and not a malfunction. I have no codes or check-engine lights so any advice is appreciated, it seems almost dangerous to drive right now so I hope there is a fix for it.