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12-29-2017, 11:46 PM
#2
The article
Love the mustang and camaro but can't stand the hideous looking dodge entries, opinions and all.
Ford truck gals and guys aren't terribly fond of Chevys, and vice versa. If you think the world of your new Honda Civic, you may sneer at a Toyota Corolla.
The 2017 Ford Mustang, which ranks No. 12 in the Made in America Auto Index is an Edmunds pick for a coupe. The Mustang has … Show more
FORD MOTOR CO. VIA AP
So as the annual auto sales races draw to a close -- the annual tallies will be reported next week -- who is going to win when it comes to head-to-head match-ups of some of the top rivalries? With 11 months of sales figures from Autodata, the winners are becoming clear.
Here's how it is looking:
Compact cars
Toyota Corolla vs. Honda Civic
Winner: Civic. Honda sold 345,880 Civics during the first 11 months of the year, compared with Toyota's 290,163 Corollas. The restyled Civic, with a return to the longer hood and a more powerful look, has been a huge hit with buyers. Other compacts lagged. Nissan, for instance, has sold 203,552 Sentras and Chevrolet moved 171,345 Cruzes.
Midsize sedans
Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry
Winner: Camry. This rivalry has gone on for decades and it used to mean a lot more before the midsize-car category lost its popularity to SUVs. Autodata finds that Camry is comfortably ahead with 343,750 sold, compared to 300,540 for Accord. Next year, the race should be more interesting. Honda is winning lots of attention for its redesigned Accord and it is a leading contender to be North American Car of the Year. If it wins, more sales could come its way.
Sporty cars
Ford Mustang vs. Chevrolet Camaro vs. Dodge Challenger.
Winner: Mustang. Ford has freshened up the Mustang and Camaro is growing older in the marketplace. The real surprise is how Challenger has come on strong. Ford sold 74,152 Mustangs, Chevy sold 64,138 Camaros and Dodge moved 60,029 Challengers during the 11 months. Fiat Chrysler's Dodge showed the value of press attention by creating a 707-horsepower Hellcat version of the Challenger followed by the 840-horsepower Demon, the most-powerful street and track production machine ever turned out by Detroit.
The all-new Chrysler Pacifica replaces the Town & County and its Dodge Grand Caravan sibling.
Minivans
Chrysler Pacifica vs. Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna
Winner: Dodge Grand Caravan. Yes, you read that right. The outgoing version of Fiat Chrysler's minivan outsold all others because it was popular in government, commercial and rental fleets even if was off the radar screen of most average buyers. Fiat Chrysler says its successor, Chrysler Pacifica, is popular with individual customers. When Grand Caravan is excluded, the race is close. Chrysler sold 107,130 new Pacificas, compared with Toyota's 102,548 Siennas and Honda's 90,433 Odysseys. Grand Caravan bested all three at 118,573.
Compact crossovers
Honda CR-V vs. Toyota RAV4
Winner: RAV4. Toyota saw a smashing 19.1% gain in sales this year for its compact SUV, enough to best the CR-V. Toyota sold 375,052 RAV4s compared to Honda's 340,912 CR-Vs. Others were far behind, like Ford and its Escape at 282,043.
USA TODAY's Chris Woodyard gives us the rundown on the 2016 Toyota Tacoma.
Midsize pickups
Toyota Tacoma vs. Chevrolet Colorado
Winner: Tacoma. Toyota sold 179,420 Tacomas compared with Chevy's 103,370 Colorados. The race should be more interesting in about a year when Ford comes back to the market with the Ranger.
Full-size pickups
Ford F-Series vs. Chevrolet Silverado
Winner: F-150. Is this really a contest? Ford has been the nation's best-selling vehicle for decades. Chevy Silverado is No. 2. That never changes. Ford has sold 807,379 F-Series pickups compared with Chevy's 518,188 Silverados. Even when you throw in GMC Sierra, the corporate cousin of the Silverado, the total still comes in almost 100,000 trucks shy of F-Series.
The 2017 Ford Mustang, which ranks No. 12 in the Made in America Auto Index is an Edmunds pick for a coupe. The Mustang has … Show more
FORD MOTOR CO. VIA AP
So as the annual auto sales races draw to a close -- the annual tallies will be reported next week -- who is going to win when it comes to head-to-head match-ups of some of the top rivalries? With 11 months of sales figures from Autodata, the winners are becoming clear.
Here's how it is looking:
Compact cars
Toyota Corolla vs. Honda Civic
Winner: Civic. Honda sold 345,880 Civics during the first 11 months of the year, compared with Toyota's 290,163 Corollas. The restyled Civic, with a return to the longer hood and a more powerful look, has been a huge hit with buyers. Other compacts lagged. Nissan, for instance, has sold 203,552 Sentras and Chevrolet moved 171,345 Cruzes.
Midsize sedans
Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry
Winner: Camry. This rivalry has gone on for decades and it used to mean a lot more before the midsize-car category lost its popularity to SUVs. Autodata finds that Camry is comfortably ahead with 343,750 sold, compared to 300,540 for Accord. Next year, the race should be more interesting. Honda is winning lots of attention for its redesigned Accord and it is a leading contender to be North American Car of the Year. If it wins, more sales could come its way.
Sporty cars
Ford Mustang vs. Chevrolet Camaro vs. Dodge Challenger.
Winner: Mustang. Ford has freshened up the Mustang and Camaro is growing older in the marketplace. The real surprise is how Challenger has come on strong. Ford sold 74,152 Mustangs, Chevy sold 64,138 Camaros and Dodge moved 60,029 Challengers during the 11 months. Fiat Chrysler's Dodge showed the value of press attention by creating a 707-horsepower Hellcat version of the Challenger followed by the 840-horsepower Demon, the most-powerful street and track production machine ever turned out by Detroit.
The all-new Chrysler Pacifica replaces the Town & County and its Dodge Grand Caravan sibling.
Minivans
Chrysler Pacifica vs. Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna
Winner: Dodge Grand Caravan. Yes, you read that right. The outgoing version of Fiat Chrysler's minivan outsold all others because it was popular in government, commercial and rental fleets even if was off the radar screen of most average buyers. Fiat Chrysler says its successor, Chrysler Pacifica, is popular with individual customers. When Grand Caravan is excluded, the race is close. Chrysler sold 107,130 new Pacificas, compared with Toyota's 102,548 Siennas and Honda's 90,433 Odysseys. Grand Caravan bested all three at 118,573.
Compact crossovers
Honda CR-V vs. Toyota RAV4
Winner: RAV4. Toyota saw a smashing 19.1% gain in sales this year for its compact SUV, enough to best the CR-V. Toyota sold 375,052 RAV4s compared to Honda's 340,912 CR-Vs. Others were far behind, like Ford and its Escape at 282,043.
USA TODAY's Chris Woodyard gives us the rundown on the 2016 Toyota Tacoma.
Midsize pickups
Toyota Tacoma vs. Chevrolet Colorado
Winner: Tacoma. Toyota sold 179,420 Tacomas compared with Chevy's 103,370 Colorados. The race should be more interesting in about a year when Ford comes back to the market with the Ranger.
Full-size pickups
Ford F-Series vs. Chevrolet Silverado
Winner: F-150. Is this really a contest? Ford has been the nation's best-selling vehicle for decades. Chevy Silverado is No. 2. That never changes. Ford has sold 807,379 F-Series pickups compared with Chevy's 518,188 Silverados. Even when you throw in GMC Sierra, the corporate cousin of the Silverado, the total still comes in almost 100,000 trucks shy of F-Series.
Last edited by Cwprotek; 12-29-2017 at 11:56 PM.
12-31-2017, 10:39 PM
#4
Large Member
not a very good 2017 for the gm guys, not only did their truck take a beating, but the camaro is getting whooped by the stang in sales too. better luck next year.
01-03-2018, 06:44 PM
#5
Central CA must be chevys last stronghold... its so pro chevy and anti Ford here it makes me want to move. There are easily 5x more silverados than F150s and I'm not even counting sierras. Its not even close. Im tired of seeing those square wheel well ****boxes everywhere I look, every second of every day. F150's cant even outsell Rams here. I hear all about how much the F150 whoops chevy in truck sales, yet every time I go for a drive here I'm clearly in the minority driving an F150. The ONLY local truck commercials they even bother airing here are for chev/GMC trucks. Everyone has a ****ing 2016+ silverado with those gay-*** LED running lights that turn off on 1 side when the blinker is on. That truck is a status symbol here. Always been that way, always will be. Its never going to change. Its rough, not only is the silverado the best selling truck here by a landslide, but 90% of their owners love to bash Fords. Sh*tty combo. Im ******* sick of how much chev fanboys have brainwashed the public into buying 5x more silverados than F150s. Screw this town and the douchebags who live here!
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01-03-2018, 07:27 PM
#7
Here in WV also. Ford has the most worktrucks, including 150s. Everyone buys Silverado, ram, f150, and tundra (then titan) in that order.
Most honestly can't tell you what cylinder deactivation is and if you ask them what engine they reply V8. People buy them because other people buy them, sheeple.
The Silverado is a good truck but round here it's almost religion.
Most honestly can't tell you what cylinder deactivation is and if you ask them what engine they reply V8. People buy them because other people buy them, sheeple.
The Silverado is a good truck but round here it's almost religion.
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01-04-2018, 07:48 AM
#8
Senior Member
The Dodge Challenger has been on the market for nearly 10 years and still shows sales nearly equal with the brand new Camaro. Why? It is the only car left with that classic 1960s look, it gives you more power for the money, and it's actually got 4-5 usable seats and a huge trunk. It makes for a wonderful touring car, track car, daily driver, and attention getter. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
The F-150 is the king because they are pushing innovation while GM is still building square wheel wells and the same weak V8 engines they had 15 years ago. Also, GM engineering since the late 1980s has been atrocious.
The F-150 is the king because they are pushing innovation while GM is still building square wheel wells and the same weak V8 engines they had 15 years ago. Also, GM engineering since the late 1980s has been atrocious.
01-04-2018, 12:28 PM
#9
Large Member
The Dodge Challenger has been on the market for nearly 10 years and still shows sales nearly equal with the brand new Camaro. Why? It is the only car left with that classic 1960s look, it gives you more power for the money, and it's actually got 4-5 usable seats and a huge trunk. It makes for a wonderful touring car, track car, daily driver, and attention getter. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
01-04-2018, 12:51 PM
#10
The Dodge Challenger has been on the market for nearly 10 years and still shows sales nearly equal with the brand new Camaro. Why? It is the only car left with that classic 1960s look, it gives you more power for the money, and it's actually got 4-5 usable seats and a huge trunk. It makes for a wonderful touring car, track car, daily driver, and attention getter. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
The F-150 is the king because they are pushing innovation while GM is still building square wheel wells and the same weak V8 engines they had 15 years ago. Also, GM engineering since the late 1980s has been atrocious.
The F-150 is the king because they are pushing innovation while GM is still building square wheel wells and the same weak V8 engines they had 15 years ago. Also, GM engineering since the late 1980s has been atrocious.
GM engineering is OK in my book, I'm still impressed with what GM can get out of a pushrod engine. It's their quality that's severely lacking, but even that is better than it was in the 80's and 90's.