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5.0 v 3.5. Which can make it from 100k miles to 200k miles with less problems

Old 02-03-2018, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiredofeverything
So in summary: Too early to tell.

It's too bad there isn't a better data collection method in place for vehicles to document issues. Or maybe one exists but is not accessible to the public.
I believe there is more to be said in any attempt to summarize what's been discussed thus far. I wouldn't say it's too early to tell - there are many in-service F150s of both variations with mileage in the range you've specified that could lend us the data needed to draw a conclusion with a high degree of certainty. However, the primary obstacle, as you alluded to in your second statement, is a lack of access to said data. This is unlikely to change while these engines are being placed in new vehicles for sale, and so without data, we must rely on our knowledge of engineering and physics to guide us. It is in this capacity that I believe the 5.0 has a much stronger argument for being the more reliable engine over the long run. This is not to take anything away from the 3.5 EB, but the ecoboost simply has more critical variables in play, which consequently leads to a higher probability of error or malfunction, particularly past the 100k mile mark. Additionally, while the ecoboost's greater vulnerability may not lead to a terminal malfunction event, it will undoubtedly lead to a higher probability of a malfunction, which thus enables us to reason that the 5.0 NA V8 is more likely to make it from 100k miles to 200k miles with less problems.
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Old 02-03-2018, 07:09 PM
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Then again, you have to pay to play too. To get more out of the 5.0, drop s SC on it. Power up the Wazzoo, but now you made it just as vulnerable to failure as the EB is, if not more.

It is unquestionable which engine is king in towing, and that is the EB, but power comes with a price.
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Originally Posted by Tiredofeverything
So in summary: Too early to tell.

It's too bad there isn't a better data collection method in place for vehicles to document issues. Or maybe one exists but is not accessible to the public.
I’ll post this again. I have access to a large pool of fleet data, it’s not even close, the 3.5 EB’s have a much higher than average high cost (over $1k) event history, it starts around 75k miles. The vast majority of (all of I recall correctly) 5.0’s make it to 100k miles, no issues. These are mostly single user vehicles.

This is based on the pool of data from a large multinational, but based on Canada only data. Our climate seems to mess with the EB engines in a number of ways. The 5.0’s are nearly bulletproof, the odd one grenades, but none in the sample group of ours.
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I have worked on diesels for many years and tinkered on cars and trucks more as a hobby. unless you are loading up the engine to the max all this heat everyone is mentioning,cooking all the extra parts is meaningless. boost is low or nill at cruising speeds and low in normal stop and go. boost is relative how hard you are mashing the petal. nobody drives this way normally. ( just sayin)
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Boost on the EB's is controlled by torque demand, and modern vehicles tend to load the engines up at low rpm to make the requested power, so half throttle might be 90% load at 2500 rpm. I know my transit diesel loads up the engine at lower rpms. Floor it and nothing additional happens unless it downshifts.
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Originally Posted by rajacat
Look what 5.Only posted on 1/18/18
"After swearing by V8s, I finally bought an EcoAnd wow, the power delivery is addicting. My 5.0 would hunt for gears constantly on certain drives but the eco stays in 6th and still gives you great torque. I just brought it home after a 10 hour drive and I can defintely see why some folks like this engine. Truck is a 2013 FX4 with 298,000 on the odo. That being said, I did get a check engine light and a couple of misfires at WOT only. Should I go ahead and change the plugs? Does anyone have any part numbers for the plugs & tools? What do I torque it to? Thanks!"
And it's currently parked in the driveway needing a new timing chain and god knows what else. Never buying this POS of a motor ever again.
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298,000 if that is miles would be a risky purchase no matter what the vehicle is, that's a hard one to pin on it being an eco boost!
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Originally Posted by 5.0nly
And it's currently parked in the driveway needing a new timing chain and god knows what else. Never buying this POS of a motor ever again.
Are you talking about the Eco Boost truck with 298,000 miles on it?
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Originally Posted by sdmartin65
298,000 if that is miles would be a risky purchase no matter what the vehicle is, that's a hard one to pin on it being an eco boost!
Very True?
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Originally Posted by 5.0nly
And it's currently parked in the driveway needing a new timing chain and god knows what else. Never buying this POS of a motor ever again.
And how many miles were on the 5.0 Truck?
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