5.0 or Eco 3.5
03-03-2017, 11:00 PM
#11
Just get the truck you like the best and enjoy it.
Otherwise it's just
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Ricktwuhk (03-05-2017)
03-03-2017, 11:18 PM
#12
Cycle For Fun and Health
Too bad you had issues with your Eco. There were also issues with the 5.0.
Would appear that both are great engines.
Whichever engine makes you happy is the best.
03-04-2017, 05:28 PM
#13
Why ecoboost... for a little more power? Two turbos, inter-cooler, extra sensors and crap is a lot more to go wrong for very little return. Gas mileage polls are a toss-up. Get the basic 5.0L V8.
10 speeds in an auto sounds complicated. My buddy has a 2009? GMC 1500, the first year a 6-speed auto was an option over the 4-speed. At 90,000 he had to have it rebuilt, spending $3,200! So much for the tiny bit of gas mileage savings, lol.
If buying new, why compromise? Even used there is no need to compromise. Search on Autotrader for exactly what you want, shipping is inexpensive.
If buying new, why compromise? Even used there is no need to compromise. Search on Autotrader for exactly what you want, shipping is inexpensive.
03-04-2017, 06:38 PM
#14
See, now look what you started.
03-04-2017, 08:02 PM
#15
Why ecoboost... for a little more power? Two turbos, inter-cooler, extra sensors and crap is a lot more to go wrong for very little return. Gas mileage polls are a toss-up. Get the basic 5.0L V8.
10 speeds in an auto sounds complicated. My buddy has a 2009? GMC 1500, the first year a 6-speed auto was an option over the 4-speed. At 90,000 he had to have it rebuilt, spending $3,200! So much for the tiny bit of gas mileage savings, lol.
If buying new, why compromise? Even used there is no need to compromise. Search on Autotrader for exactly what you want, shipping is inexpensive.
10 speeds in an auto sounds complicated. My buddy has a 2009? GMC 1500, the first year a 6-speed auto was an option over the 4-speed. At 90,000 he had to have it rebuilt, spending $3,200! So much for the tiny bit of gas mileage savings, lol.
If buying new, why compromise? Even used there is no need to compromise. Search on Autotrader for exactly what you want, shipping is inexpensive.
03-05-2017, 01:56 AM
#16
Senior Member
As stated, find the truck you want in the color you want. whatever engine it has, go with it.
I ended up with a Eco this time and love it, next one may be a V8.
I ended up with a Eco this time and love it, next one may be a V8.
03-05-2017, 02:02 AM
#17
Senior Member
Why ecoboost... for a little more power? Two turbos, inter-cooler, extra sensors and crap is a lot more to go wrong for very little return. Gas mileage polls are a toss-up. Get the basic 5.0L V8.
10 speeds in an auto sounds complicated. My buddy has a 2009? GMC 1500, the first year a 6-speed auto was an option over the 4-speed. At 90,000 he had to have it rebuilt, spending $3,200! So much for the tiny bit of gas mileage savings, lol.
If buying new, why compromise? Even used there is no need to compromise. Search on Autotrader for exactly what you want, shipping is inexpensive.
10 speeds in an auto sounds complicated. My buddy has a 2009? GMC 1500, the first year a 6-speed auto was an option over the 4-speed. At 90,000 he had to have it rebuilt, spending $3,200! So much for the tiny bit of gas mileage savings, lol.
If buying new, why compromise? Even used there is no need to compromise. Search on Autotrader for exactly what you want, shipping is inexpensive.
6 speeds have been standard since '09 in the F150. 10 speeds paired with the 3.5 Eco in 2017 and 10 speed across the line in 2018 except maybe the 3.3.
Also the 3.5 Eco gets a impressive bump in Torque for 2017. 470 lb-ft is pretty awesome.
I'm looking forward to what the 5.0 brings for 2018, lots of talk about more Power.
Heck the 3.7, 3.5 and 3.3 V6's in the newer ones are close to HP than the 5.4 from 2003.
03-05-2017, 10:47 PM
#18
That's what I said when looking. 3.5 or 5.0 didn't matter, what was in the truck as far as equipment was the driving force to buy what I did. Though now after reading about the 17 3.5 with 10 speed, wishing I had found one of those instead. I test drove both the 5.0 and the EB and side by side, they felt the same, so really no contest.
03-06-2017, 07:14 AM
#19
As you've noticed now, engine choice is a bit of a "hot topic" on the forum. I personally don't get the animosity over engine choice, but it is what it is.
I am in a similar boat as yourself. I'm retiring this year and bought my 2016 to be the last vehicle I ever buy. Whether or not it works out that way remains to be seen.
I decided on what options I wanted and went from there. My base list was SuperCrew, Lariat, 4x4 and 6.5 box. I tow a travel trailer from time to time so I wanted the Max Tow option. I wanted the 3.5 EB to start with and max tow kind of pushed me towards the 3.5 as well.
As an old hotrodder I have trouble wrapping my mind around a gas turbo engine lasting, but I know that modern engineering and metallurgy is doing some pretty amazing things these days. Every time I get on the gas I have to remind myself its "just" a 213 ci v6. Amazing that so much power rolls out of such small displacement. I'm also in a field that forces me to keep up to date on these sort of things so I have a very good grasp of what's actually going on, but that old hotrodder in the back of my head just won't settle down about forced induction and longevity. Even though I know better....
3.5 or 5.0 makes no real difference to me. They're so close everywhere I see it more as a personal choice. Performance is so close it doesn't really matter. MPG (rated) is within a few MPG and in day to day grind that's so close it doesn't really matter either. Longevity? Both are "new" designs so I don't see much difference there either other than the fact one is forced induction and one is naturally aspirated.
But I hedged my bets when I went with the 3.5 EB: I got a good price on a "Demo" and beat them up pretty good from there. I then took some of that savings and took out the 8 year/150,000 premium extended warranty. I chucked the maintenance plan on that as well.
So, even if the engine or transmission tanks, it's covered. Basically, I was looking to cover the drivetrain since that will stop you dead if it goes. The rest is basically "conveniences" and if they go and aren't under the warranty at least I still have a drive-able truck.
Maintenance items are just that: maintenance items. Brakes wear out, fluids need to be changed, tires wear, etc. The maintenance package covers a lot of it, but not all. For example: tires.
Find a truck you like, buy IAW your needs, cover your butt (ie: extended warranties) if you feel it necessary and enjoy your purchase.
I am in a similar boat as yourself. I'm retiring this year and bought my 2016 to be the last vehicle I ever buy. Whether or not it works out that way remains to be seen.
I decided on what options I wanted and went from there. My base list was SuperCrew, Lariat, 4x4 and 6.5 box. I tow a travel trailer from time to time so I wanted the Max Tow option. I wanted the 3.5 EB to start with and max tow kind of pushed me towards the 3.5 as well.
As an old hotrodder I have trouble wrapping my mind around a gas turbo engine lasting, but I know that modern engineering and metallurgy is doing some pretty amazing things these days. Every time I get on the gas I have to remind myself its "just" a 213 ci v6. Amazing that so much power rolls out of such small displacement. I'm also in a field that forces me to keep up to date on these sort of things so I have a very good grasp of what's actually going on, but that old hotrodder in the back of my head just won't settle down about forced induction and longevity. Even though I know better....
3.5 or 5.0 makes no real difference to me. They're so close everywhere I see it more as a personal choice. Performance is so close it doesn't really matter. MPG (rated) is within a few MPG and in day to day grind that's so close it doesn't really matter either. Longevity? Both are "new" designs so I don't see much difference there either other than the fact one is forced induction and one is naturally aspirated.
But I hedged my bets when I went with the 3.5 EB: I got a good price on a "Demo" and beat them up pretty good from there. I then took some of that savings and took out the 8 year/150,000 premium extended warranty. I chucked the maintenance plan on that as well.
So, even if the engine or transmission tanks, it's covered. Basically, I was looking to cover the drivetrain since that will stop you dead if it goes. The rest is basically "conveniences" and if they go and aren't under the warranty at least I still have a drive-able truck.
Maintenance items are just that: maintenance items. Brakes wear out, fluids need to be changed, tires wear, etc. The maintenance package covers a lot of it, but not all. For example: tires.
Find a truck you like, buy IAW your needs, cover your butt (ie: extended warranties) if you feel it necessary and enjoy your purchase.
Last edited by Great white; 03-06-2017 at 07:23 AM.
03-06-2017, 07:43 AM
#20
I can't speak for the 15+ models, but I've had a 2014 3.5 screw fx4 for the last two years and it was great. Recently let it go and purchased a 2013 2wd RCSB 5.0 STX, primarily due to payment (wife got a Edge with all the bells and whistles, Ecoboost too). The towing capabilities of the eco are phenomenal but the MPGs are not at all. Mind you the 2wd is lighter and not turning near as much rotating mass but it does the same MPGs in a mix of city and highway what the eco would do strictly on highway. Off the line, say at a stop light the 5.0 has more off idle but once in the boost the eco had more. From 2000-3500 the eco will own the 5.0 all day. But past about 4k the eco fell on its face where the coyote excels.
For me the switch was easy. Do I miss the turbo whistle....Yes. Did I miss the V8 roar....Yes. But for what I do and what I want it for the V8 wins. The big crew cab just wasn't really needed. More or less overkill. We purchased a family car and I got a pickup I can build up with ease, thats the main reason I went with the coyote. The things I miss the most are the options, not the motor. Leather bucket seats, heated and cooled, reverse camera, all the little things but I can do without them personally. So really I'd stick with what others have said, get what one you can afford with as many of the options you would like to have. Don't concern yourself with the motors when you use it for a daily and don't haul a lot. But from my experience don't expect what the sticker says on MPGs for the eco.
For me the switch was easy. Do I miss the turbo whistle....Yes. Did I miss the V8 roar....Yes. But for what I do and what I want it for the V8 wins. The big crew cab just wasn't really needed. More or less overkill. We purchased a family car and I got a pickup I can build up with ease, thats the main reason I went with the coyote. The things I miss the most are the options, not the motor. Leather bucket seats, heated and cooled, reverse camera, all the little things but I can do without them personally. So really I'd stick with what others have said, get what one you can afford with as many of the options you would like to have. Don't concern yourself with the motors when you use it for a daily and don't haul a lot. But from my experience don't expect what the sticker says on MPGs for the eco.