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Old 07-05-2016, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 06F150CFCT
It's more about moving the center of gravity further away from the middle of the truck. So now, certain suspension parts are taking on more of a load at a different angle. I haven't had any personal experience as I have never ran a wheel with that much offset but have read online where some people have. They also could have had things installed wrong too but I remember reading an article on fourwheeler.com about this topic. You might be able to find out more there. Again, you prolly won't do much damage or notice a difference if the vehicle is driven on tar roads but if it's wheeled and driven hard like a sports car, then these issues may surface quicker and be more apparent.
I appreciate the detailed response. As for wheeling, thus truck doesn't see all that much off-road. My ranger takes that beating. My f150 may get locked in 4wd once a month and I usually creep through the mud/sand as I like to take care of this truck. So the F1 usually sees highway miles on the weekend and less than 15 city miles per day. So leading to another question, why wouldn't I be able to run that tire/wheel combo if my dad can? His level is .5 shorter than mine and all he did was minor valence trimming. I know you said you don't run any type of offset but you seem to be well educated in this matter. I'm a 19 year old E2 in the army so yeah I still have a lot to learn. Again though, I appreciate the help
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I appreciate the detailed response. As for wheeling, thus truck doesn't see all that much off-road. My ranger takes that beating. My f150 may get locked in 4wd once a month and I usually creep through the mud/sand as I like to take care of this truck. So the F1 usually sees highway miles on the weekend and less than 15 city miles per day. So leading to another question, why wouldn't I be able to run that tire/wheel combo if my dad can? His level is .5 shorter than mine and all he did was minor valence trimming. I know you said you don't run any type of offset but you seem to be well educated in this matter. I'm a 19 year old E2 in the army so yeah I still have a lot to learn. Again though, I appreciate the help
Thanks man, I'm only 28 but have had an 06 F150, a 2014 Ram 1500, and now a 2012 F150 Platinum. I am not one to let other people touch my truck to work on, so I research a LOT about the trucks and how things work. I've lifted two of the trucks by myself and I'm not a mechanic by trade...I'm a chemist...haha. So it's all just info that I have come across. I also am not a huge fan of wheels that stick way out. I had some on my Ram mostly due to the 37x13.5 Toyo tires and they just throw debris up against the side of the truck and chip the paint. Regular fender flares wouldn't have done much to help.

Anyways, you should be able to run your dads exact tire/rim combo in your truck. The stock wheels are about 6.1" backspace like earlier stated with the +44mm offset. The package you want to run with a 12" wide whee with a -44mm offset has a backspace of 4.75" which isn't that bad, but it's the fact that the wheel is 12" wide. You would end up rubbing the inner fender near the door jamb which is metal and this cannot be trimmed without extensive modifications. The opposite side is what your dad trimmed and is only plastic so it's no big deal.
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Originally Posted by 06F150CFCT
Thanks man, I'm only 28 but have had an 06 F150, a 2014 Ram 1500, and now a 2012 F150 Platinum. I am not one to let other people touch my truck to work on, so I research a LOT about the trucks and how things work. I've lifted two of the trucks by myself and I'm not a mechanic by trade...I'm a chemist...haha. So it's all just info that I have come across. I also am not a huge fan of wheels that stick way out. I had some on my Ram mostly due to the 37x13.5 Toyo tires and they just throw debris up against the side of the truck and chip the paint. Regular fender flares wouldn't have done much to help. Anyways, you should be able to run your dads exact tire/rim combo in your truck. The stock wheels are about 6.1" backspace like earlier stated with the +44mm offset. The package you want to run with a 12" wide whee with a -44mm offset has a backspace of 4.75" which isn't that bad, but it's the fact that the wheel is 12" wide. You would end up rubbing the inner fender near the door jamb which is metal and this cannot be trimmed without extensive modifications. The opposite side is what your dad trimmed and is only plastic so it's no big deal.

That dodge is sick man. And alright I appreciate your advice. I like hearing from people with the first hand experience such as yourself. So with that being said, would a 10 wife be ideal?
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The only difference like you said is that his level is .5" lower. So maybe with yours being taller, it pulls the tire too close to the upper control arm. You have a taller strut so the angle of the upper control arm is steeper. I still think it should fit on your truck.

If you went with a 20x10, with a 35" tire, it would have to depend on what tire you are using and the backspace/offset of that rim. You would probably want around a 5-5.5" backspace which would be 0 to -12 offset. I would check the tire/rim fitment thread on here to see if anyone has a similar setup first.
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Originally Posted by 06F150CFCT
The only difference like you said is that his level is .5" lower. So maybe with yours being taller, it pulls the tire too close to the upper control arm. You have a taller strut so the angle of the upper control arm is steeper. I still think it should fit on your truck. If you went with a 20x10, with a 35" tire, it would have to depend on what tire you are using and the backspace/offset of that rim. You would probably want around a 5-5.5" backspace which would be 0 to -12 offset. I would check the tire/rim fitment thread on here to see if anyone has a similar setup first.
gotcha. I appreciate the help man
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Not a problem! Good luck!
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Not a problem! Good luck!
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I think I found something a little bit better.
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Originally Posted by HunterC96FL
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I think I found something a little bit better.
-24mm is still a bit too much negative offset.
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I think I found something a little bit better.
That tire is also too big for just a level....it is 35.4"x 12.8".....it is too wide and too tall. Haha. Going to have to step down to a true 35x12.5 at the biggest. Even then you will have to pick a rim which the perfect specs. I'm not sure you can run a 10" rim with a 12.5" wide tire on just a level. You might have to google it to see if anyone has done it.

On a positive note, that's a good tire and it's not too knobby so you should be able to run a big size. If you wanted to run an aggressive mud tire, you would have to drop down to an even smaller size.

Also, what year is your truck? You have a pic?
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Originally Posted by 06F150CFCT
That tire is also too big for just a level....it is 35.4"x 12.8".....it is too wide and too tall. Haha. Going to have to step down to a true 35x12.5 at the biggest. Even then you will have to pick a rim which the perfect specs. I'm not sure you can run a 10" rim with a 12.5" wide tire on just a level. You might have to google it to see if anyone has done it. On a positive note, that's a good tire and it's not too knobby so you should be able to run a big size. If you wanted to run an aggressive mud tire, you would have to drop down to an even smaller size. Also, what year is your truck? You have a pic?

Alright cool and I have some brand new terra grapplers on it now. I put them on before I left for Europe. Less than 1500 miles on them. 04 f150 xlt 4x4



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