Trade 16 F150 Platinum for 17 Super Duty?
04-17-2017, 08:06 PM
#31
Congrats on the F350. I think I'm going to give it a shot with my F150 for now. We found a TT we like that is 6900lbs dry, with a 550lb tongue weight. With a solid WD hitch (may even go to a Hensley or ProPride), I think this will be ok until I can upgrade the truck down the road. As much as I'd love to upgrade, the numbers aren't really working out on finding the exact 16 I'd want, or building a 17...maybe when the 18's are coming out.
I have three Deere's with diesels but will stick with GTDI engines for my truck.
04-24-2017, 09:09 AM
#32
I wonder how many sales Ford, GM, and Ram make of 1/2 tons knowing that almost no customer understands how tow ratings really work. (Or payload, etc)
And on the flip side how many big campers are sold by RV salesmen.
With all the crap in the back of my truck I am limited to a 3500# TT.
"F150? You can tow 10k! Oh you only have a v6, no problem your truck can tow this 6k TT"
My thoughts are if you are going to tow 9-11k on a regular basis, why not get a 250 or 350?
And on the flip side how many big campers are sold by RV salesmen.
With all the crap in the back of my truck I am limited to a 3500# TT.
"F150? You can tow 10k! Oh you only have a v6, no problem your truck can tow this 6k TT"
My thoughts are if you are going to tow 9-11k on a regular basis, why not get a 250 or 350?
Check your axle ratings, you may be able to increase your capacity. The engine has absolutely nothing to do with how much weight you can legally carry.
I certainly agree on your last point though.
04-27-2017, 06:55 PM
#33
F250>F150
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I sold my F150 privately then bought a F250 privately. I bought a 2015 since I only wanted the upgraded turbo, HPFP, etc. It helped that I had a third commuter vehicle since there was some layover between selling/buying.
15 XLT with 26k for a 15 Lariat 6.7L with 17k(yes, 17k) and a $14k out of pocket. I don't think thats bad for what I got. The guy I bought the SD from ordered it himself. It had the 5th wheel/Gooseneck prep so all that work is already done and clean with a factory bedliner. He had a Bakflip F1 on there, 3" suspension lift, 20" Moto Metal and 35x12.5 Toyo Open Country tires with about 6k on them. Looking at the build sheet I think he may have saved money getting a Platinum but he said something about wanting Blue Jeans/Magnetic two tone. I wasn't arguing. Great price.
Point being is there are some really good trucks out there to be had outside of dealerships. I found this one in Oklahoma.
Bad pic but you get the idea.
15 XLT with 26k for a 15 Lariat 6.7L with 17k(yes, 17k) and a $14k out of pocket. I don't think thats bad for what I got. The guy I bought the SD from ordered it himself. It had the 5th wheel/Gooseneck prep so all that work is already done and clean with a factory bedliner. He had a Bakflip F1 on there, 3" suspension lift, 20" Moto Metal and 35x12.5 Toyo Open Country tires with about 6k on them. Looking at the build sheet I think he may have saved money getting a Platinum but he said something about wanting Blue Jeans/Magnetic two tone. I wasn't arguing. Great price.
Point being is there are some really good trucks out there to be had outside of dealerships. I found this one in Oklahoma.
Bad pic but you get the idea.
Last edited by BoozeDaily; 04-27-2017 at 07:00 PM.
05-01-2017, 10:52 AM
#34
I went the other way - and for good reason. I had a '15 F350 6.7 and am now in a '16 F-150.
If you look at the payload for an F250, you will find that it is not much more than an F150 for a similarly appointed truck.
If this is your daily driver, you will find it is very uncomfortable after the honeymoon wears off. Unloaded, the ride downright sucks. As for parking, good luck. The pict directly above makes me LOL. Parking the truck anywhere was a royal pita - and the turning radius is terrible.
As for maintenance costs - they are much, much higher. 13qt oil changes, 2 fuel filters, def (which if you run out of, you are not going anywhere until it is refilled) fluid, cetane boost, etc. It all is MUCH more expensive. And, as someone has noted, if there is any water in the fuel, bend over. Not only that, but it takes forever to heat up in the winters, so be prepared to freeze.
The worst part however is the emissions. Given how the system works, do not expect the engine to last anywhere as long as was previously generally accepted.
I loved having a 6.7, but I hated owning a 6.7.
As for towing, be intelligent about loading and you will be well within safety limits and the ride is perfectly fine.
If you look at the payload for an F250, you will find that it is not much more than an F150 for a similarly appointed truck.
If this is your daily driver, you will find it is very uncomfortable after the honeymoon wears off. Unloaded, the ride downright sucks. As for parking, good luck. The pict directly above makes me LOL. Parking the truck anywhere was a royal pita - and the turning radius is terrible.
As for maintenance costs - they are much, much higher. 13qt oil changes, 2 fuel filters, def (which if you run out of, you are not going anywhere until it is refilled) fluid, cetane boost, etc. It all is MUCH more expensive. And, as someone has noted, if there is any water in the fuel, bend over. Not only that, but it takes forever to heat up in the winters, so be prepared to freeze.
The worst part however is the emissions. Given how the system works, do not expect the engine to last anywhere as long as was previously generally accepted.
I loved having a 6.7, but I hated owning a 6.7.
As for towing, be intelligent about loading and you will be well within safety limits and the ride is perfectly fine.
05-01-2017, 11:32 AM
#35
I went the other way - and for good reason. I had a '15 F350 6.7 and am now in a '16 F-150.
If you look at the payload for an F250, you will find that it is not much more than an F150 for a similarly appointed truck.
If this is your daily driver, you will find it is very uncomfortable after the honeymoon wears off. Unloaded, the ride downright sucks. As for parking, good luck. The pict directly above makes me LOL. Parking the truck anywhere was a royal pita - and the turning radius is terrible.
As for maintenance costs - they are much, much higher. 13qt oil changes, 2 fuel filters, def (which if you run out of, you are not going anywhere until it is refilled) fluid, cetane boost, etc. It all is MUCH more expensive. And, as someone has noted, if there is any water in the fuel, bend over. Not only that, but it takes forever to heat up in the winters, so be prepared to freeze.
The worst part however is the emissions. Given how the system works, do not expect the engine to last anywhere as long as was previously generally accepted.
I loved having a 6.7, but I hated owning a 6.7.
As for towing, be intelligent about loading and you will be well within safety limits and the ride is perfectly fine.
If you look at the payload for an F250, you will find that it is not much more than an F150 for a similarly appointed truck.
If this is your daily driver, you will find it is very uncomfortable after the honeymoon wears off. Unloaded, the ride downright sucks. As for parking, good luck. The pict directly above makes me LOL. Parking the truck anywhere was a royal pita - and the turning radius is terrible.
As for maintenance costs - they are much, much higher. 13qt oil changes, 2 fuel filters, def (which if you run out of, you are not going anywhere until it is refilled) fluid, cetane boost, etc. It all is MUCH more expensive. And, as someone has noted, if there is any water in the fuel, bend over. Not only that, but it takes forever to heat up in the winters, so be prepared to freeze.
The worst part however is the emissions. Given how the system works, do not expect the engine to last anywhere as long as was previously generally accepted.
I loved having a 6.7, but I hated owning a 6.7.
As for towing, be intelligent about loading and you will be well within safety limits and the ride is perfectly fine.
Last edited by GFL; 05-01-2017 at 11:37 AM.
05-02-2017, 11:05 AM
#36
I agree with all said above, but there is no replacement for disp... yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Im a die-hard diesel guy, but the more I drive my 2016 F-150, the ONLY issue I have is the payload... well, and not buying the tow mirrors. I'm seriously considering air bags for sagging, and tweaking my weight distribution, and finally, finding a travel trailer with exterior rear storage or storage on or behind the axles to allow me room to adjust my tongue weight. The F150 is just a phenomenal ride.
Im a die-hard diesel guy, but the more I drive my 2016 F-150, the ONLY issue I have is the payload... well, and not buying the tow mirrors. I'm seriously considering air bags for sagging, and tweaking my weight distribution, and finally, finding a travel trailer with exterior rear storage or storage on or behind the axles to allow me room to adjust my tongue weight. The F150 is just a phenomenal ride.
05-02-2017, 11:37 AM
#37
I agree with all said above, but there is no replacement for disp... yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Im a die-hard diesel guy, but the more I drive my 2016 F-150, the ONLY issue I have is the payload... well, and not buying the tow mirrors. I'm seriously considering air bags for sagging, and tweaking my weight distribution, and finally, finding a travel trailer with exterior rear storage or storage on or behind the axles to allow me room to adjust my tongue weight. The F150 is just a phenomenal ride.
Im a die-hard diesel guy, but the more I drive my 2016 F-150, the ONLY issue I have is the payload... well, and not buying the tow mirrors. I'm seriously considering air bags for sagging, and tweaking my weight distribution, and finally, finding a travel trailer with exterior rear storage or storage on or behind the axles to allow me room to adjust my tongue weight. The F150 is just a phenomenal ride.
I'm with you on the mirror regret (the only I have). But I ended up buying from Amazon, and they work great...slide right off when not towing. I keep all of the OEM mirror functionality as well (cutouts for everything)
05-04-2017, 07:59 AM
#38
I agree with all said above, but there is no replacement for disp... yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Im a die-hard diesel guy, but the more I drive my 2016 F-150, the ONLY issue I have is the payload... well, and not buying the tow mirrors. I'm seriously considering air bags for sagging, and tweaking my weight distribution, and finally, finding a travel trailer with exterior rear storage or storage on or behind the axles to allow me room to adjust my tongue weight. The F150 is just a phenomenal ride.
Im a die-hard diesel guy, but the more I drive my 2016 F-150, the ONLY issue I have is the payload... well, and not buying the tow mirrors. I'm seriously considering air bags for sagging, and tweaking my weight distribution, and finally, finding a travel trailer with exterior rear storage or storage on or behind the axles to allow me room to adjust my tongue weight. The F150 is just a phenomenal ride.
03-25-2018, 02:23 PM
#39
Since I am going the LL route on my 16 F150, I am considering going the F350 route. I test drove a 15 yesterday and could not get over how much smoother it rides compared to my F150. Bumps are firm, but no jiggles or vibrations that I feel in the F150. The 350 was planted, and rides like a truck, as expected. Currently weighing options, and costs, and trying to decide if going SD is the correct path as I know my trailer needs will only grow over time. If I stay with the F150 then I have to downsize the trim, which is not the way I want to go, I like having the options I have, and don't have the time to spend upgrading only to wind up with the same towing capacity.
Why is the F2/350 so damned high though? I stood next to a new one, without running boards and the bed was at my chin! Do they really need to make them that tall? For what purpose?
I have my eye on a 16 Platinum that would be a nice improvement over what I have now. In the process of going over everything with a fine tooth comb.
Why is the F2/350 so damned high though? I stood next to a new one, without running boards and the bed was at my chin! Do they really need to make them that tall? For what purpose?
I have my eye on a 16 Platinum that would be a nice improvement over what I have now. In the process of going over everything with a fine tooth comb.
03-26-2018, 11:55 AM
#40
Well...OP update here. About 6 months ago (I know, because my Sirius subscription just expired) I sold the F150 privately, and bought a 2017 F350 SRW Platinum 6.7L. That hurt. But now I have my last truck... Absolutely love this thing. As mentioned above, stiffer, yes...rides more like a truck than the car-like F150. You quickly get used to it though and dont think about it. I more miss the F150 for other reasons (like putting the Ecoboost in "Mustang mode")...but the 925lb ft of torque in this diesel monster is just amazing....when towing, and not towing. We've got a cross country summer trip with the camper planned...just put some new Good Year E tires on (camper), and ready to roll. Bring on the Rockies!
