marshallr

Currently in a 2014 F-150, specs in my sig line. Thinking about moving up to an F250 with the 6.2 gas engine. I doubt if I'll ever buy anything I can't pull with my current truck, but could see the need to pull other heavier trailers in the future for other reasons. And the F250 would handle loads approaching the max I can tow with the F150 with room to spare. I know I don't want the diesel. More negatives than I want to deal with.

To be honest a big part of the reason is that I simply like the taller stance of the 4X4 F250's. Looking at the costs I think it would be better to just buy the F250 rather than make modifications to the F150 to get a similar look. And I'd have a heavier duty truck to boot. I'd get 3.73 gears, a taller look, and 33" tires from the factory, all mods I'd like to do to my current truck. Right now I'm looking at both used and new. And this isn't something I'd do in the near future, if at all. Thinking about summer or fall. Based on what KBB says my truck is worth, and what I can get an F250 for it just isn't that great of a jump in price. As long as I stay with the 6.2. And I'm perfectly happy with an XL. Wouldn't pay the premium for anything more expensive than an XLT. I've ridden in and driven enough F250's to not be concerned about the harsh ride.

I currently can get 20 mpg hwy if driven carefully, but normal is closer to 18. Over the last 50,000 miles the overall average according to the readout on my truck is 16.8. That is a mix of hwy, city, and several thousand miles of light towing. I'm assuming that a 6.2 gas F250 would be about 2 mpg worse and I can live with that. I'd probably be looking at about the same 2 mpg penalty if I modified my current truck.

Is there anything I'm missing? Are there any advantages to going new vs used? Are the fuel mileage estimates in the ball park? Most everything I know about the Superduties are with the diesel engine. I have several friends or relatives with those. But not a lot of info about the 6.2.

Durling91

I think you should at least wait to see the 7.3 pushrod Gasser that they are coming out with. Rumored to have 450hp 500tq with a 10speed. I'm betting that it will have better MPG then then 6.2. You should have plenty of info out by fall.

77Ranger460

The 7.3 is yet a mystery. Lots of speculation, but not much info right now other than it looks to be an optional gas engine beside the 6.2. The new 7.3 and new 10 speed may be a winner right out of the gate or may have its growing pains.

OP, I am pretty confident you will suffer more than a 2 mpg loss with a 6.2 over your current truck. As far as the 6.2 goes, it has proven to be reliable and powerful for a gas engine.

5.0GN tow

I am anxious to see the 7.3 too. They have been working on it for at least 2yrs so I am betting it been pretty thoroughly tested. Plus it should be the simplest engine they have introduced in a while.

clarkbre

A very realistic overall MPG will be more in the 12 range. If you keep your foot out of it, use cruise control and keep about 60-65mph, 15.5mpg is very attainable. I can say that while towing my 7500 loaded travel trailer, the F250 with the 6.2 gets about 1mpg better than my F150 Ecoboost did.

I don't think you're missing much. You know the F250 will handle the same load better than the F150 at the cost of ride and MPG. It's a bigger truck all round. The curb weight of the F250 is about the same as the GVWR of the F150. For me, the additional 1237 lbs of payload sold me on the F250 (2766) over my F150 (1529). We were maxed out in the F150 and the F250 gives a huge safety margin that makes it much more comfortable for towing our trailer.

Sticking strictly with the 6.2, a new F250 (2017 and newer) will have the remapped engine with slightly higher torque, 430@3800 RPM as opposed to the 2016 and older with 405@4500 RPM. The 2017 and newer also come with the 6r100 transmission as opposed to the older (but still used with the 6.7 diesel and 6.2 F350's) 6r140 transmission. The 1st and 2nd gear in the 6r100 is slightly lower but the other 4 gears are nearly identical. The 2017 and newer is also the new, aluminum body style. With a lighter weight body, the frame has been beefed up a bit. The overall driving experience with the 2017 and newer is that it's a little better off the line and, in my opinion, drives more like a car or SUV. I think this is due to the fact that so much of the weight is low on the vehicle as opposed to the steel bodied 2016 and older trucks.

Waiting until 2020, the 7.3 sounds pretty awesome. My only reservation with that engine (or any new engine) is that it hasn't been road tested for years on end. After going through some major repairs on my Ecoboost (2011...first year) @ 71k miles, I was happy to buy a truck with an engine that had a VERY good track record. The 7.3 will likely be a very awesome engine; however, I don't want to be buying a case study for Ford that I will be paying for the repairs. The 10 speed transmission also sounds great, but again, it's not tested. Overall, I will stick with older tried and true technology that has been proven rather than being one of the first with the newer technology.


Ultimately, it comes down to how much you want to spend and what you truly need out of the truck. For me, the step up to the F250 was about safety and longevity.

marshallr

Thanks, this is the info I'm looking for to help me decide. While the 7.3 sounds like an awesome engine I don't need that much power. I'm thinking Ford is offering this to give buyers similar towing as the diesel without the negatives of diesel fuel. The 6.2 will have more than enough power for my needs. I'm more interested in payload than HP or Torque. I'm actually leaning toward a 2017 or 2018 used truck. If I do this at all. But 12 mpg may be a bridge too far. I'll need to crunch some numbers to decide if it is worth it. I'd decided I could live with 16 hwy and about 14 for my normal every day driving.

Either way I've got a few months before I decide.

Durling91

Well if you aren't too worried about the power that 10speed can be had on the 6.2 as well. That might add a couple extra mpg for you. I think if it was 16 everyday and 19 on the highway you are gonna be in heaven. Actually everyone is gonna be in heaven. I doubt it's gonna be that high though! Idk man. If you can really wait I'd say just at least test drive them. That's how I ended up with a 3.5 eco with a 10 speed. Was dead set on a 6 speed 5.0 until I drove the EB. What a beast.

marshallr

If someone could get 19 mpg hwy and 16 for everyday driving with a gas Superduty it becomes hard to justify an F150. The diesels will do that, but the diesel engine is a $9000 option, fuel is close to a dollar a gallon more and maintenance is much more expensive.

77Ranger460

The 6.7 diesel mileage reported here isn't all that high:


http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-250_super_duty?engineconfig_id=300&bodytype_id=&su bmodel_id=

The 6.2 is only about 3 mpg less:

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-250...=&submodel_id=

clarkbre

Surely that diesel average can't be accurate! They only covered about 15 million miles! �� Pretty amazing since they all seem to get 20+ mpg rolling down the highway....

That data must've come from people actually towing and using their trucks as trucks!!!