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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 05:26 AM
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Thinking about ordering a 2022 F250. I’ve never had anything bigger than a 1/2 truck and have never owned a Diesel. Since it’s going to be a daily driver, I want all the creature comforts of my current F150 and want the best MPG I can squeeze out of it. I will be towing a 8000 + pound boat. My current F150 pulls it, but I’m overloaded on payload/GVWR and just really don’t feel good about it. The F250 should make easy work of it and give me the cargo flexibility I don’t have now, I have built it as follows:

Lariat Crew Cab w/ 6 3/4 box
6.7 Power Stroke V8 Turbo Diesel w/ 10 Speed Transmission
3.31Slip Axle Ratio
4x4 SRW
High Capacity Tow
Lariat Black Appearance Package
Lariat Ultimate Package
Moonroof
Adaptive Steering
Adaptive Cruise Control
Individual TPMS
Engine Block Heater

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Will I notice much of a difference in ride quality versus the F150?
What kind of MPG should I expect from a daily driver Diesel versus the gas engine options (6.2 and 7.3)?
I don’t really need a Diesel and it’s a $10K upgrade, but that’s where I will get the most MPG bang for my buck right?
Will I see much of a MPG swing when towing with the F250? I’m used to the huge swing with my current F150.
Do I really need the 3.55 Axle Ratio? What’s the MPG sacrifice here? I never use the Locking Axle Ratio in my F150. The cost of upgrading the axle ratio is insignificant.
Is Adaptive Steering worth the 1000K upgrade? I really don’t fully understand what it is exactly.
Will the F250’s have the interior upgrades of the current F150, such as the 12 inch screen and Sync 4?
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:29 PM
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1. The ride is completely different. I am a new owner but I like the ride better but it’s not all better. I like that it’s not as soft, but on rough roads it will make you drive slower. On the highway it’s great.

2. I get 18+ in the diesel on my hour long test drives. I got just under 14 mpg on my 2 hours behind a 7.3. I didn’t drive a 6.2 liter.

3. If you drive 22k+ miles a year like myself the savings can eliminate the upgrade cost and maintenance. But this will depend on the cost of fuel in your area. Diesel is +/- $0.10 in my area. If you drive 5-12k a year, the difference is much less. (No fights here, to each their own. I have done my math correctly.)

4. Haven’t towed yet. Most don’t tow enough miles for this to matter.

5. Get the 3.31 ratio. I got the 3.55 but that’s what comes with the 20 in rims that I really didn’t want.

6. The sacrifice might be .5 mpg but 8000 lbs will not tax the engine.

7. I love the locking axle and won’t have a truck without it. It will help with the loading ramp and/or camp ground. Depends on your uses.

8. Don’t have Adaptive steering but was looking for it. The new Superduty has stiff steering and it would have been nice. Some have been having issues with it. Take or leave it in my book. Wasn’t a must have.

9. It changes the input needed at different speeds. Easier to turn wheel in a parking lot and it needs more input on the highway.

10. The 2022 will get the bigger screen and Sync 4. I don’t think there are any other interior upgrades.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 02:52 PM
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I just upgraded to a 250. I had one a couple trucks ago but went back to a 150 since I wasn't towing as much. I had just bought a 2021 F150 and found it didn't tow as well as I would have liked (~9500 lbs) so I upgraded to a 2121 F250. One thing is that the F250 is a larger vehicle and therefore more difficult to park/maneuver in tight parking lots. Typically not an issue I just park out in the south 40. As was mentioned it does have a stiffer ride which is esp noticeable on rough roads, not so much on good roads, but you will feel the pot holes. As far as towing I haven't towed with the new F250 but the old one did take a hit but not as much as the 150. I would get 1/2 the mileage towing in my 150. IIRC my old 2013 250 went from like 20 on the hwy to about 13 on the hwy. I just did a 500 mile hwy run (not towing) on new 250 and got 21.7 doing ~70mph in the eco mode.

The other thing I noticed was that many of the options on the 150 were step up options on the 250. For example my new 250 is a low Lariat but doesn't come with the push button start but was included on my 2021 F150. Also the 2021 F250s come with Sync3 and my 2021 F150 came with Sync4. Maybe that comes next year or the next remodel for the F250. Personally I don't look at the high tech options much because they are always upgrading. I want the basics; leather seats, cruise control, pwr windows, door locks etc.

As far as gas vs diesel, IMO it comes down to how long are you going to keep it and if you are going to be doing a lot of towing. My expectations are you could expect ~200k miles on gas but 300k+ on diesel and maybe even 400k. Plenty of stories of both engines going longer than that but from what I can tell that is a good baseline. The diesels are more expensive to maintain and operate as well as the initial cost. Oil changes require13 qts of oil and the fuel filters are ~75 and those need to be changed every 30k. Bottom line if you are going to be towing or plan on keeping the truck for a long time then the diesel is prob the way to go. I plan on doing both a lot of towing and keeping this truck for a long time so I opted for the diesel.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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I chose a gas Super Duty because I plan on owning it a long time. Modern diesel engines are more expensive to repair or replace than gasoline engines. I did not want to own a diesel out of warranty.

I dont know if I tow a lot compared to some. My truck has 28k miles. According to the dash display right at 10k of those miles were from towing 3 different trailers.
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 05:00 PM
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Thanks for the informed response.
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 07:53 AM
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Just a word of caution: a diesel F250 with all those options is probably going to have a payload similar to an F150.
You may want to step up to a F350 for not much more money.
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalCutter
Just a word of caution: a diesel F250 with all those options is probably going to have a payload similar to an F150.
You may want to step up to a F350 for not much more money.
I had a 2021 F150 Lariat with Max Tow and sticker was 1509 and new 2021 F250 is > 2100
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My 2019 F350 has a 4100 lb payload
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by davek22554
I had a 2021 F150 Lariat with Max Tow and sticker was 1509 and new 2021 F250 is > 2100
get a gas f250 and that payload goes up a good bit. 2100 in payload isn’t that much of a step up from most f150s.
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 09:38 AM
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My gas F250XL has 3400#.
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